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Adaptive and anti-scheme casino generations

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Re: Adaptive and anti-scheme casino generations

10 months 2 weeks ago - 1 week 4 days ago
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Adaptive — as a layer in a casino between player bets and RNG results
The casino controls the game in the form of anti-pattern generations.

There is one moment that sooner or later every player who stays in a casino longer than a couple of months goes through. He stops believing in “pure randomness”. Not because he became paranoid, but because experience begins to conflict with textbooks. Too often the same thing happens. Sometimes $10 easily turns into $200 with almost no resistance.
But in most cases $100 does not even live to see +$1 to the initial balance.

And here a logical question arises.
If everything is decided by mathematics and variance, why does the game differ so clearly on different days?
The answer is unpleasant, but obvious: between the generator and the player there is almost always a layer — adaptive.

The casino plunges the player into a global minus.

Adaptive is not a “kill the player” button in the casino admin panel and not an evil programmer who sits at the monitor and watches you specifically. Adaptive is a layer between you and the pure RNG. It does not think. It changes generations according to algorithms. Adaptive reactions respond to player bets and behavior.

That is why a casino can look fair, but play unfair.

 

Three basic truths of adaptive theory.

[*]Third. Between the RNG and the player there is almost always adaptive logic. Even if the generator itself is formally random.

It is this layer that makes the game anti-pattern.
The most brutal manifestation of adaptive is the total rollout mode.

When the casino turns on total rollout, a simple but merciless thing happens. Regardless of bets, strategies, sensations and near-hits, the credit begins to wave-like slide to zero. Not sharply. Not immediately. Often beautifully, methodically, with rare flashes of hope.

It is at this moment that most players break. It seems to them that they lacked just a little bit. That one more try, one more progression, one more “press” — and everything will return.
And hellish burning of deposits begins.

The danger of total rollout is that it can last for hours, days, weeks and even months. And if the player does not understand where he is, what kind of greedy platform it is — he simply feeds the system.

Therefore, the main practical conclusion is simple and cynical. It is important Where, When and How to play!
Before any serious game, a casino can and should be tested. Not for winnings, but for modes and limits of what is allowed. And for this you do not need to be a genius. It is enough to coldly look at whether the game gives stable patterns.

A dispute often arises here.
Some say: nobody is cheating anyone, there is chaos, we are just looking for light in the tunnel.
Others claim: adaptive is real, and it reacts to player actions.

The truth, as usual, is more unpleasant than both sides.

 

The casino does not “cheat” a specific person.

The casino cheats a complex pattern, including based on all the statistical data of a particular player. If you have a global minus of -$2000, then the casino can easily show you even +$500 in the next session. In order to later take them back and on top of that you will bring three more times as much.
If a player begins to think linearly, repetitively, confidently — adaptive gets easy prey.

Whether to play chaotically or not does not matter. Adaptive will still be nearby. Even if the RNG is formally clean, it is pseudo-clean RNG. The casino cannot afford not to control the game. It simply does it subtly and imperceptibly, waiting for the moment.

Adaptive knows how to wait and analyze the game.

It needs to find your patterns in the game and break them with anti-pattern generation.
Therefore, transitions between strategies among players should not be random, like provocations of the system.
When a player begins to think in stages and multi-linearly, he ceases to be a convenient target.

It is very important to learn to distinguish randomness from controlled play. It is the adaptive reaction that gives the feeling of regularity and accuracy of forecasts. Not because you guessed the number, but because you got into the reaction phase.

Beginners throw wide betting nets and do not know how to use them. Experienced players, on the contrary, narrow bets and begin to chase the ball. These chases can be different — from static to ultra-dynamic. But in the end, most die the same way.

There are demonstrative stories when online roulettes were closed because of players who caught a weak spot. Such stories are rare, but they exist. And they are not about luck.

One simple experiment shows a lot. Take several casinos and play nine to the right of the last number, with neighbors, with smooth progression. Theoretically, the win should come once every four spins. In practice, you will see strange, prolonged distortions not in your favor. Mathematicians smoke on the sidelines.

Why? Because adaptive turned on, understood your playing system. And the zones you are aiming at begin to die out.

 

Reversal of thinking anti-adaptive.

Instead of chasing the ball, you can force the casino to give winnings.
In practice, it looks like a horseshoe jumping across the field, constantly changing shape. Add progression — and you will get a dialogue with adaptive, not a monologue against the wall.

The personal experience of many players ends the same way. The first cycles give a quick plus. It seems that the key is found. Then losing streaks begin to lengthen. 12 LOSS turns into 20. You bring more money, and 20 LOSS become 40. And this repeats for weeks.

It is here that understanding comes: it is not about luck and not about bad luck. It is about the fact that the casino plays from your bets.
Real RNG is a rare guest. Casino and fair play are formally synonyms, but in practice they have long diverged. And the question “why do people go there then” is not as stupid as it seems.
The answer is simple. Because the casino sometimes pays. And pays beautifully, to inspire hope and make people bring money.

But the casino does not pay everyone and not always the same way. Today it likes big completes. Tomorrow — simple chances. The day after tomorrow — neighbors. Sometimes they pay those who bet big. Sometimes — those who spread small change. The casino has its own calculations and its own plans for collecting money.
The type of bet and the size of the claim for payout are factors that cannot be ignored.

 

The most dangerous state of a player is “Almost hit”.

It is this that turns off logic and causes a storm of emotions. It is this that makes you step over stop-losses, look for money, get into debt. “One pocket away from fat” is not a chance. “Previous fat number” is a trap.

The bet either played or not.
If the algorithm gives frequent hits — the core is working. We have the favor of adaptive.
If not — the scale of the game, strategy, time of the game — everything needs to be changed, not pressed to the end.

A game plan is always needed. Not abstract, but rigid. Session protocol. Conditions of entry, exit and stop. Without this, adaptive will always be ahead. The casino does not need to be beaten. It needs to be waited out — to approach the period of money distribution with a good bet.

Playing with a casino is not a game of Luck!
This is a game with adaptive.
And in the long run, the one who better understands the operation of this black box wins.

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Re: Adaptive and anti-scheme casino generations

10 months 2 weeks ago - 10 months 2 weeks ago
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Our subconscious records and remembers much more than we actually realize - this is where a certain law of meanness originates:

Consciousness follows its own logic - the subconscious follows its own!

Consciousness - because, being unable to remember and grasp everything with attention, it acts from the logic of probability and assumptions! - The subconscious, because - it remembers something and logically suggests more frequent combinations! - And, as a rule, in disputes between both, for some reason and for some reason, it is not "friendship" that wins!

This is how you can explain a familiar meanness - when, playing roulette, you bet on a sector for a long time, diligently, and your intuition (the subconscious, having embraced an unknown "Wave") says that the sector is about to fall out. But you worry and consciously interpret everything exactly the opposite - immediately, instead of logically waiting, you make a transition to another sector - and Murphy's Law works for you!!!

The sector drops out, but you are no longer there - and the grieving inner voice, echoing "the reptile", echoes - "I told you so! I warned you!"

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FoxDuhovny, 16.04.2017 22:53
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Friends! During a long series of spins, did you have an intuitive feeling that can be described as "as if the adaptive was "peeping" at the player's bets"? Of course, the adaptive does not "peep", but calculates the bets in a certain period and if the player uses less than three strategies, then such an intuitive feeling signals an immediate radical decision! The solution can be different: the simplest is STOP-withdrawal or STOP-break (more than 6 hours), the most difficult is a radical change of strategy to several different passive pseudo-strategies (at least 3) with one goal to bring the adaptive to a different counteraction mode, as soon as this happens, a similar syndrome will appear again ... And until an adequate feeling appears on pseudo-strategies - there is no point in returning to work plans. If, upon returning to the work plan, you managed to collect 2-3 wins, do not wait for the feeling, immediately switch back to pseudo-rates and spin again until an adequate feeling of "looking" appears... if you managed to get x10 from the initial deposit in several cycles, feel free to withdraw everything! and do not play for at least 5 days...
FoxDuhovny, 24.03.2017 20:10
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As for "common sense", I remember the phrase from the movie "Doctor Strange" as a rule of life - it is not in everything, and it is not needed everywhere!
Loiri, 23.03.2017 15:34
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The only sound advice for the above-mentioned cases can be a decision before the game - with whom of the "two" are you playing - (Consciousness or subconsciousness?) - if there are "two" of you, then there will be twice as many mistakes!!!

- It would seem logical to follow the inner voice of your subconscious, since it is capable of riding a "long wave of playing numbers" - but it is not far from painful symptoms - common sense will intervene willy-nilly, and you will start twitching! (It is easier for beginners in this choice, they have no way out due to ignorance, and they play on instinct - by the way, precisely because of ignorance and a wider unconscious scope of the game, at the beginning beginners play with their own instinct - quite well!)

- As for common sense, on roulette you need to be able to direct it in the right direction.

Common sense when playing roulette always assumes that if a sector on the field or roulette wheel has not played for a long time, then it is about to play! - The assumption is sound, but God forbid you follow it! - You can only bet on those sectors that have appeared recently and are playing now!

- Much of the solution to this game lies in the "illogical - logic" and in the conclusions of a practical observer, not a theorist! - It seems that for these very reasons, many people do not give in to roulette - the logic of their assumptions runs counter to the cunning reality!
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Re: Adaptive and anti-scheme casino generations

10 months 2 weeks ago - 10 months 2 weeks ago
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24.03.2014
No one will argue that the ODREX pneumatic roulette has one of the most well-thought-out and rigid adaptive systems.
many roulette players when they play for years (!!!) at least in alive or on this pneumatic do not understand the difference, the game pneumatic is so cleverly built
There is a change of power in Ukraine now, all the underground halls understand that they may soon have to close, so everything is turned up to the limit
The pneumatic gun kills everyone!
I spent 2 months trying to find the key to it and found it
Now I play with the result of 15-20 minutes +200+500 UAH.
All my "ace" friends are in a panic, there is not a single decent win, but there are a lot of unworthy losses
What's the point?
I usually exchange 500 UAH.
200 by 20
200 by 50
100 by 100
I start entering 20 at different terminals and bet everything in one move!!!
I put in a bunch of 4-5 numbers, the claim comes out from 20 to 225 and higher payment
past-past-there
5-10 minutes break
the same
sometimes there is something right away
if there is no half of 20 then I switch to 50 the same and change terminals all the time
sometimes I place a bet on one and during the spin I load the other two
sometimes I bet on two at once (they don't overlap)
in short, I have never lost the initial 500
when + has already been worked out
I try to catch a second win in a row with the next win, but not a repeat!!! (again, I bet on everything) it often gives
if the pick-ups are performed 3-4 times then
then the initial 20-50 turns into 1500 and more
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I don't think that online is kinder than pneumatics
but roulette should not only kill but sometimes also give (in other words, no one will play it)
in this mode (single wins) you should never get involved in a long fight
and I need to somehow transfer my experience to online
everything should work out
if the pool miners are considered as different terminals for one roulette
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Re: Adaptive and anti-scheme casino generations

10 months 2 weeks ago - 10 months 2 weeks ago
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came from the earth

I noticed this thing

Roulette gives out winnings differently, i.e. today it likes big completes on the field, tomorrow it likes simple chances or dozens, the day after tomorrow neighbors on the track or series

also, the system is visible, sometimes it allows big players to win, and sometimes it is the opposite for those who have small change smeared (remember the game in microbes on a multi-table, where people bet $5-10 and I was getting fat on bets of $70-80)

etc.

1) IS "BET TYPE" REALLY A WEIGHT FACTOR?

2) IS THE "SIZE OF THE CLAIM" REALLY A WEIGHT FACTOR?

3) ACROSS THE BOARD (NEXT TO), PREVIOUS BOLD

4) WHAT TO DO WITH THE KCH SERIES, because there is an adaptive reaction with a delay and you need to balance on transitions so as not to lose the mvsli ))))

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in any case, it wouldn't hurt to CLEARLY understand trends 1) and 2) so as not to strain the roulette

the idea is this

1) at the beginning, pour different types of bets in an overlap with a small bet, rebet 2-3 spins and discard NON-PLAYING

leave 2-3 TYPES that win = this will be the BASIS

2) do the same, but on the accepted basis, and change the severity of the rates - we see how the adaptive reacts to cheap/expensive

understand what is playing and then bet on it in the future

3) monitor point 3 and make a decision on WAITING/INSURANCE



IDEAL STORY = NARROW PATTERNS and EXPENSIVE without forced b/w, etc.

CRAP = WIDE and CHEAP

!!! but since the goal is PROFIT, we bet as the roulette gives!!!

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.......I'll go and practice )))

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FoxDuhovny, 17.09.2017 23:31
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Very good topic, a Game Plan is always needed, I have never created one in any form before and I had to pay a lot for my laziness before I began to force myself to create such a plan at least in my mind and strictly adhere to it... now, when the start of success is close, I realize that I will have to force myself to create such a plan for each game session in the form of a strict protocol.
Shpilevoy, 24.06.2017 06:23
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while the overall pool is negative and there is no flow of positive players, casino analysts are sleeping

yes, it's hard to strictly stick to one line of the game and with BRM there are often distortions = you need a bot

T-800 )))) When I first drank a cup of coffee in a casino for $1000 I freaked out terribly, but after 10-20 times it subsided

all my actions (technical) are aimed at straining my head less
these are both the strategies themselves without complex calculations, and the movements of chips
because during a long game "overload" will occur and the logic will start to fail )))
Shpilevoy, 24.06.2017 06:22
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Subscribed to YouTube. Only one thing confuses me: you post videos in the public domain. Don't you think that there is a threat of revision of roulette algorithms? It is quite possible that serious casinos may have some kind of analytical department that monitors people's turmoil on the Internet in case "especially cunning" comrades are suddenly noticed. This may look like another conspiracy theory, but large establishments (as well as tobacco companies) have plenty of money for both lawyers and some kind of assistants. Do you think that "too small" for them? So they can go to the pool, and the pool is already more serious + they monitor everyone and in case of coincidence of the trends noticed by many people, they form common theses and can send them to software developers for correction. Everyone is connected there. If you look at it from this position, then you cease to be a drop in the ocean.


Watched the video "Game 7 Strategy of the game One static number in double wrapper" - cool. Thanks, it was interesting.
But even I, not a pro, want to point out something that I noticed in terms of criticism. Somewhere in the middle of the process, you deviated from your strategy and started to force not only the neighbors of the center, but also the newly dropped numbers. It looked like a massive collapse of the table. I have already been convinced from my own experience many times that in this case a drain is very likely. The roulette starts to hit the cold zones, and this is not that blessed case when some deliberately provoke the roulette to such behavior in order to abruptly move their chips to the cold ones and "catch" the roulette on its inertia. Because it not only drowns your bets smeared on the table, but also does it chaotically and it is difficult to catch it. And the more you bet, the faster the credit sags.
No matter how you say in the video - that everything is based not on the ceiling, but on experience and that people are wrong to think about "sharp reckless behavior", it is still purely physically true = the more you bet, the faster you lose. You didn't have 5000 leverage, but only half a thousand. As if... you used the wrong denomination of chips :)


I would like to say special thanks for the rouletted speech without swearing and unjustified expressions (as is fashionable these days).

And I'm sitting here, watching and worrying about your loan, DAMN, more than you are! :)
Of course, I understand that you need to approach the wheel with a cool head. But damn, you're just like a Machine, like a T-800, watching the credit melt away, and then you're like... "well... it's time to make a new deposit and make a new push."
You're amazing! :) Super cool. Or does it just seem that way to me, and inside you're also worried, you just don't show it on video? If it's not a secret :)

And another piece of advice in terms of convenience. I noticed that when you explain something, show something, or when you are already playing, you sometimes need to change the bets. And it often happens that you can change everything except a couple of numbers. You take the erase chip and start erasing everything. This is inconvenient. It will be faster to fix in your head what to leave (especially if it is one or two numbers) and click on "clear the table".
Here's another reason why I like Microgaming roulettes. They have a right-click bet cancellation feature. I can't imagine why other casino script developers haven't figured this out. What kind of hack is this - the erase feature?! :)
FoxDuhovny, 27.10.2016 12:24
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In Profit it is real... I just have to finish with Crystal. Since it is a priority of my work and real life (its second half) 48 however the age of realization of success in reality or realization of illusions in oblivion of quiet despair... who chooses where everyone himself... guess what is suggested from childhood by the system so that the Person could choose "correctly"... running ahead I will say that for profit I have 18 calculated numbers one of which falls out 4 times out of 5 rebets during a series of 5-6 30 spin series. Further I simply did not study the values because the tendency is already clear in calculations every 5 rebets...
Shpilevoy, 10/19/2016 10:09 PM
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in profit is not realistic because of the CC
30 spins on repeats of complex arrangement
and then the next 30 for its analysis
this is brutal
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I'm going to BV
WITHOUT KCH!

I will put them up for rebets one by one
so that the total number of closed numbers was 18
and mark how many in 20 spins there will be WIN
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Re: Adaptive and anti-scheme casino generations

10 months 2 weeks ago - 10 months 2 weeks ago
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Ole Order 3066 - oh, the bot has gone down beautifully ))) It seemed to guess everything, but it was always close, within +-3. If there were any hooks, I think I would have pulled out the game.
When a player puts more than 1-2 adjacent numbers behind the spin, a very common situation arises: "almost hit". If the player also owns the track, then "almost hit" becomes an obsession.

Let's count for 5 numbers scattered across the field. Neighbors +/-1 are already 10 numbers.

Track neighbors +/-1 are another 10 numbers.

In total, with the basic five numbers, we get 25 numbers. Such a virtual betting field (after all, there are only 5 numbers on the field) is strange if almost every spin does not "play".

The danger of such perception is that "ALMOST GOT IT" will turn off logic and emotion will suck out all your money. It is this state that will become a sufficient reason for clasp.

Let's say you have a current balance of $428.

You decided to play for $28, and if the game doesn’t go well, you’ll take a break for 24 hours.

1) "ALMOST HIGH" will force you to step over the stop-loss. First by $5-10, then by another $20... and then -100-200... and what is there to lose now (it would seem stupid to hear from a person with $200 in the account, but all this is the action of ALMOST HIGH)... and here is zero on the credit.

2) And even at zero, "ALMOST HIGH" makes many not to slow down, frantically look for money, throw it into the casino furnace. From here debts, deception, problems appear...

Let's agree that the bet either played or it didn't.

If it plays often, the algorithm is good; if it plays rarely, the forecast core needs to be reviewed and improved.

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Sumiala, 21.04.2016 19:19
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This will be a useful exercise. The casino is trying to move away and you are trying to drive the ball into your field. Who will do better?
FoxDuhovny, 20.04.2016 10:08
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There will be a separate video about understanding reactions where I will try to show with a balance of 100 thousand fans how adaptive can work without changing the rate but only changing the offset? It will be interesting!
ADM13, 20.04.2016 09:00
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Coin has repeatedly emphasized that a key set should have 8-10 good strategies.
A serious credit decline indicates that the current strategy is not working and a key change is needed.
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"the adaptive one has calculated you" yes, but it is the game with the adaptive one, understanding his reactions and being in an aggressive mood, that brings
super-profits, because it makes the unreal real :D
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Re: Adaptive and anti-scheme casino generations

10 months 2 weeks ago - 10 months 2 weeks ago
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I noticed that I usually play either in repeats of numbers or sectors of the field (hot) or, conversely, in cold.

An idea came to mind about how to organize a web mode in place of a casino, when everything falls somehow awkwardly and evenly and there is nothing to grab onto. There are no bright distortions in the backs.

You can take a real RND series of spins. Of course, it will have different collisions. Now we will expand it twice. Each spin of the original series will be replaced by two spins + and - with a certain step.

The casino takes the step from the player's betting statistics. If the player often catches repetitions, then we take a large step. If the player, on the contrary, catches diameters, then we take a small step.

What happens?

For the replay player.

Step 10, Outgoing row 7 - 2 - 36 - 36 - 27 - 24 -

End row 17 - 35 - 12 - 28 - 9 - 26 - 9 - 26 - 0 - 17 - 34 - 14

It is clear that a direct repetition of the number cannot in principle be. The idea needs to be developed.



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ADM13, 29.05.2015 08:50
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Why 10-15? The casino perfectly calculates the average depth of your static re-bets, adds a couple of spins and removes fresh zone repeats at this distance.
Shpilevoy, 29.05.2015 08:47
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it turns out that after the designated collision, the next 10-15 spins at best contain 1 number from your set (usual?) set
Shpilevoy, 29.05.2015 08:45
Shpilevoy
I will also note the WEB
clearly noticed that with CONSTANT collision catching in Betvoyager the following happens

a) we catch on the field - generates neighbors on the track
b) we catch on the track - generates neighbors on the field

for example, 20-23 fell, we cover this area on the field
start to fall .1..5..31..14.8...

for example, 20-14 fell, on the track we cover this area with neighbors
start to fall .17..13..18...24...19

it's just mind blowing
Sumiala, 24.04.2015 14:20
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No matter how the casino selects the numbers (without cheating with throwing), for any set of spins, there are losing and winning bets for the player.



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Wrote to Shpilev:
You're in trouble
- L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - W - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - W - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - W - L - L - L - L - L - L -
where W is not fat.

And I could have
- W - W - L - L - W - L - L - W - L - L - L - L - W - L - W - L - L - L - W - W - L - L - W - L - W - L - W - W - L - W - L - L - L - W - W - W - L - W - L - W - L - W - L - W - L - L - L - L -
where almost all W are supported by coners and split centers.

The question is that the second successful option can lie completely inconveniently on the field, without neighbors and neighbors. Then your favorite type of bet in a bunch is deadly for you, because it eats up money and does not give a jump in profit.
This is why the CMP pool plays everything from flat to not be tied to a physical classical field or track.



I would also like to emphasize that trends can be stable.
Very stupid in the situation
- L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - W - L - L - L
hope that now IT WILL PLAY
continuation of the statics of squeezing this forecast - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - W - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - W - L - L - L - L - L - L - L - does not bring anything good

Shpilevoy, 20.04.2015 16:57
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very similar to what I had in the last BV tournament.
there were no direct repetitions at all (but they should come at least once every 100 spins)
and such things quite often like 23 - 6 - 36 - 6 - 19 -12 -6 - 34 - 6 fell out
maus, 20.04.2015 08:59
maus
End row 17 - 35 - 12 - 28 - 9 - 26 - 9 - 26 - 0 - 17 - 34 - 14
Imagine that after each spin we bet from +5 numbers to -5 on the field and we are surprised how it is 100 spins and it does not fall.
maus, 20.04.2015 08:55
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And by the way, all games of picking up a repeat of the last number become meaningless with such a layout.
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