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Life "Me and Casino Roulette" from adequate players

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Re: Life "Me and Casino Roulette" from adequate players

2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago
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----Are you familiar with the Kharkiv blacklist? Or such players?
:D
They have the Queen of Spades on their foreheads, illuminated in neon. That's where he knows from.

pofistal
I played twice in my life.
The first time I won 600 bucks, the second time I lost about 400.
after that it let up. You can generate adrenaline in other ways :)

ecst
Usually people go to casinos for communication and mood, if you approach a casino with the goal of making money, then most likely you are doomed to failure, well, of course, unless you are a pro. I remember moments when everyone at the table was told to stop drinking alcohol because everyone at the table started drinking together under blackjack or playing with foreigners, basically they raise the mood with their actions

I run and my hair is back
I worked in Metropol. 1700 USD is a very small amount for such a casino. I will not write about the maximum losses, so as not to traumatize the fragile psyche, but I can say that they are calculated in hundreds of thousands of dollars.


zicoss
Yes, it's all about psychology, a full understanding of this comes after several years of playing, these would seem to be obvious things for a person who has not played, or played little, but it's like in life, everyone knows how to do it, but for some reason no one does anything about it. Even realizing all the problems, choosing a strategy/tactics of the game, and setting limits, it is very difficult to control yourself, especially during winning and losing streaks. Regarding the "sticking" of the ball, an experienced dealer can throw a ball that stops in the "right" sector. Playing haphazardly and the results are the same. Playing systematically, the result is that you will stay with your own, but this will be a mouse fuss that negates the whole game, or rather, ignites a burning desire to play big.
A very adequate judgment. I read various literature and articles about strategies and the conclusion is one - sober psychology, system, threshold of winning and losing and you can go to the casino, considering it as a way of entertainment, classifying yourself as an elite, a way of earning money, etc.
Any loss of a player is determined by his level of wealth, but this does not paint him in any way, and declaring the amount of loss is not a reason for pride. It is bad when, having lost 1000 UAH, a person understands that they were the last in the family budget. I lost a maximum of 7000-10000 UAH, this was never the last money. Moreover, I lost when I played to win back and when I exceeded the winning threshold. I regularly won 300-500 UAH, drank coffee, sometimes cognac and went home in a good mood, understanding that the best thing about playing in a casino is not to lose.

scooter1976
understanding that the best thing about playing in a casino is not losing.
and you also forgot - the game itself, in its own way, is also wonderful...
If you bet on red in a casino and you're stubbornly unlucky, try betting on red!
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2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago
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---I'm married, my wife and I often went together, but of course she doesn't know about all my trips.
great, leave your uncle at the casino about 10-50 thousand!!!
No, that's not what I'm talking about. It sucks to lose money! I meant the gameplay itself...
I have one idiot friend, he makes money, then spends it on the machines and yells that he's not sane, like "fuck, I'll go play now", and it's been like this for 10 years already!!!:D:D
I know someone like that too! He'll win 300 and lose 1300!

Ferox
"My loss was about 80-90 thousand UAH, while my turnover was more than 2 million UAH for this period"
On a single zero roulette, your loss should average 2.8% or 60 thousand. To estimate how likely the deviation is, a loss of 80 thousand instead of 60 thousand, you also need to generally know the total number of bets, and what exactly you bet on (colors, dozens, sectors, numbers), but most likely such a deviation fits into the normal distribution law.

Stank
Well, I don't know, casinos don't get me going. And I hate throwing money away. And I can easily release my adrenaline. "Abakan" and the shooting range.

zicoss
You calculated the percentage of the total correctly, but it has nothing to do with my lost amount. If we take the number of casino visits and winnings, then out of 10 I won 9 times, but not as much as I lost 1 time out of 10. That 1 time, I was unlucky in half of the cases, and in half my psychology let me down, when instead of leaving with a small win, I lost as much as I could afford. But in general, my total loss is approximately equal to the %-th of the casino's advantage due to one "0". And from what I saw around me, this percentage is much higher, not in favor of the players. System + psychology is 99% of winning, if you count on luck, then it is 50/50 minus the percentage of the casino ...

Yuri Batkovich
And also please explain: what common sense do you see in playing where it is known in advance that there is a stable -2.71% against you? This means that in the long run you will be in the minus. This is natural and you yourself state this.
It would be better to play poker for high stakes if you are attracted by the process of the game itself (which, by the way, is a psychological addiction - ludomania)
There are such games in Chateau Ledo. Stacks are 50-100 UAH.

armored train
Roulette is a game with negative mathematical expectation, give it up.

zicoss
But seriously: in America there is a practice that professional players or serious amateurs come on vacation to Atlantic City or Las Vegas, stay in a hotel at a casino and live there playing every day - some leave with millions, some with credit card debts, but most importantly having achieved some result. If you have such a talent and set a goal, like you, to go for a couple of days to Kyiv, Donetsk, Dnepr, Minsk and other cities where there are casinos, then you can live (of course, you need to have a reserve of money in case of loss, travel and other expenses). If according to your statistics you are always in the plus, then what prevents you from living like that? There are people who are always on business trips? It is not difficult to study and know the systems, the main thing is THIS: 1) Psychology, 2) Stick to the system (and this is already mental stability)
One of the common patterns of behavior of a player in a casino (according to my observations): a person comes with excitement and desire and confidence that he will win. Starts playing, very often wins at first, since there is a reserve of money, reaches some + and continues to play. Then loses-wins-loses-wins, not particularly monitoring his balance. Having lost all the chips, he goes to change more money in the hope of winning back the first exchange, but the second time the exchange amount is smaller and it is more difficult to win back, having lost, he goes to change again, if of course there is money, with the goal of winning back what he lost earlier. Of course, players generally do not have a system, everyone plays according to their preferences on certain numbers, sectors, a set of numbers, etc. It all ends with the fact that after losing, everyone shares with colleagues how they first raised .... UAH, and then lowered ... UAH. Moreover, the more UAH is lowered, the more pride we have that we are so rich and allow so much to be lost.
I know for myself that you can't win more than you have to play with, because you need to bet amounts that you can win back. There should be a threshold for winning, and losing should also be perceived as one of the stages of the game. In smart books, for every 4-7 winning sessions there is always 1 loss. But again, everyone has their own goals, someone comes believing in winning, while with the psychology of a "loser", subconsciously knowing that they will lose anyway, but also knowing that they will come again to win back.
And the casino also takes away energy, when you bet something assuming you are sort of getting into the future, something akin to fortune telling, and this is already a drain on energy, so if you approach it professionally, you need to be prepared in many ways.
If you bet on red in a casino and you're stubbornly unlucky, try betting on red!
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Re: Life "Me and Casino Roulette" from adequate players

2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago
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Regarding America - it all started with America back in the 60s of the last century, thanks to Thorpe and his book "Beat the Dealer". And believe me, they know how to calculate counters there faster than anyone)) But I don't lose heart and visit countries like Egypt, Northern Cyprus, etc. - I've traveled half the world and almost everywhere I've been I have blacklists. By the way, in Northern Cyprus, where there are about 20 casinos, Russian professionals have brought the local casino management to the point that they simply don't let you into the local casinos if you are a former citizen of the Soviet Union. The reason is that about 5 serious teams of professional players from Lithuania, Ukraine and Russia have distinguished themselves. These teams have won more than a million dollars in the last couple of years. Almost the same situation is in Sharm el-Sheikh - Russians are allowed in, but with great caution and allergies))
Regarding the secrets of winning - it was correctly said earlier in this topic - YOU SHOULD NOT PLAY GAMES WITH NEGATIVE MATHEMATICAL EXPECTATION. And this is the MAIN THING. Roulette is one of these games. It cannot be beaten by ANY system. It can only be beaten with a scanner or late bets (but this is a separate topic). In Blackjack and poker against the casino, you can turn the mathematical expectation in favor of the player, thanks to memorizing information about the cards that came out. And then, as you said - you need to play only according to the system and again only according to the system! And then - mental stability and nerves of steel.

Sergey tel
"I played roulette a little, because I almost never won on numbers, if I did bet, it was only on red or black, and according to my calculations, the loss is in the lead. And of course, there is no point in betting chips on many numbers at once. I play in the casino mainly on slot machines for small amounts of money, so that the pictures match, I want to learn to play poker well, but it is so difficult."
nothing complicated! start with a regular game on the computer to understand the rules!

Gramazeka BJ
Don't drive women into fornication)) Playing, and especially professional play, is a man's business.

Ruslan2
open your casino and forget about the problem..

Gramazeka BJ
I'm ready to smear him, only more so that he wouldn't even get into one issue by order. Regarding the beatings - you've clearly watched too many movies. Everything you wrote is the fairy tales of grandma Arina Rodionovna))

Arnold Snyder
DIVINE REVELATION
Swami Pastrami, the Great Guru of Gambling, had a dream one night that all the croupiers were strangled by their bow ties and fell into 100-gallon barrels of tomato soup. The next morning he announced the following message to his followers: “I have had a vision! Let each of you send me $10 and let me share with you the secret of unheard-of wealth!”
Swami's million followers all sent him the money he wanted, making Swami a very rich saint. Swami responded by sending each of his disciples his interpretation of the strange dream: "Find a croupier with a crooked bow tie and bet $100 on red. Double your bet until you become rich!"
Swami Pastrami himself did not yet know that he had made a mistake in interpreting his dream, which was not of divine origin, as he had assumed, but was caused by too many jalapeno peppers that he had eaten the day before.
Over the next month, all one million of Swami's followers found a dealer with their ties slid off and placed $100 bets. Since the odds of winning on such a bet are 18 out of 38, 526,316 players lost their money, while 473,684 won. The losers, disillusioned, stopped betting, but the winners thanked Swami and soon they all bet $200 on red. As expected, 249,307 lost their money and quit. But 224,377 players won, and, delighted, bet $400 on red. This time, 118,093 lost and 106,284 won. These players, now betting $800, were firm believers in Swami's ideas and his system. Interestingly, the casinos have also believed in this system! Since the Swami's disciples began playing, the casinos have already won a total of almost $15 million from these followers alone!
Word spread among the casinos, and soon an amendment to the rules was passed by law - every follower of Swami had the right to bet any amount, regardless of the maximum set by the casino. And in the whole world there was not a single croupier left whose tie was tied evenly.
The remaining 106,284 followers bet $800 on red. At that point, there were 50,345 remaining, each betting $1,600. After another bet, the number of remaining players was reduced to 23,848, each betting $3,200. The next bet saw fewer players, with 11,296 remaining, each betting $6,400. After another bet, there were only 5,351 remaining. And the stakes had risen to $12,800. And after another bet increase, there were 2,535 players. And the stakes were $25,600. These people were now openly praising Swami Pastrami as a genius. After another bet, there were 1,201 remaining followers, each with $51,200.
Swami, meanwhile, launched a new advertising campaign that was based on real facts: "Over 400,000 of my followers doubled their capital in the first day! Over 1,200 of my most loyal disciples turned their initial $100 into over $50,000!"
There is a moral to the story. Just because one individual got rich using an inexplicable system is not proof that the system is a winner. Be wary of system sellers who use testimonials from successful users as advertising. While these testimonials may be honest, that player's success over a short period of time means absolutely nothing.
If you're wondering what happened next to the remaining 1,201 followers of Swami Pastrami, after eight bets on Swami's system, there were only three people left, each with more than $13 million in capital. By this time, the casinos had won more than $60 million from Swami's disciples.
Seeing their following steadily dwindle, the three wise men decided not to bet any more. Instead, they each paid a million dollars to their teacher for the right to franchise Swami Pastrami's system in their area. Each made their second $13 million in half the time they made their first.

Yuri Batkovich
Then know that your friend lied to you.

The Soothsayer
Myth: The dealer cannot throw in the right sector.
I have one such myth, on a bet of five hundred bucks, 7 out of 10 times I put 17 with my neighbors. Not during the game, of course.
And it’s a complete myth that if someone at the table plays big on chances, the zero-spiel will most often fall.

Gramazeka BJ
What kind of miss was it? That he would hit 5 numbers 7 times out of 10? I'm ready to miss against the dealer like that. Only bigger... (I'm not kidding).

KAC
Casinos are evil.

zicoss
For me it makes sense to see the brain and strategy in action that bears fruit when playing with a casino. It is also interesting to see how you will not be allowed to play if you win. For you it could only make sense that I will make an exchange for you with my card, but if all the dealers, bosses and pit bosses know you and panic arises when they see your face, then I don’t even know...
I agree with the opinion "A respectable casino does not "magnetize" the ball" - although I have repeatedly noticed when during the game regular chaotic stops of the ball indicating a free choice of sector sometimes alternated with a not entirely clear sticking in the sector, and after the ball stopped, after a second it shifted under the action of centrifugal force to the edge (rear) side of the sector (analogous to an electronic roulette, where the ball falls into magnetized sectors - 100%). I paid attention to this in Misto, Metropol, Colosseum and others, although in Misto there is a device with which, at the request of the client, they can check the presence of metal in the ball (although we all know that technology allows magnetizing different materials). I do not argue that this is a fact and takes place, but often the trajectory of the landing and vibrations of the ball cause such suspicions. But in any case, if this exists, then there must be operators and more than one who would monitor the bets and "regulate" them, and this could already become known.
----In Kharkov I play in two casinos, but I will not "advertise" them and myself in particular, when I am in Kyiv, I go to the Premier Palace
----If you trace the fall of any sectors and their neighbors, then according to visual sensations, repetitions of the neighbors of the previous fallen number fall most often. But this is not a statement, but only a visual perception. So playing with neighbors makes sense.


Exodus_
Playing in a casino is the same addiction (literally) as tobacco, alcohol, drugs. We don't play in a casino, we earn money honestly and enjoy the fruit of our hands-)

DrKukk
"You need to focus on the criteria of gambling addiction. If most of the criteria show signs of gambling addiction and attempts to solve the problem on your own have been unsuccessful, then you cannot put off contacting specialists. The most important criterion is that gambling creates problems in family and other relationships, debts grow, emotional instability and other mental problems appear."

Gramazeka BJ
On average, a professional Blackjack player has an income per hour equal to one maximum table bet. That is, if the table is 25-500 UAH, then on average the player will have a profit of 500 UAH per hour. I have played in a team for 5,000 euros in a box. This was in Cannes.
The average win depends roughly on the size of the bank and the risks, as well as on the hours worked, plus the speed of the game (no less important).

Gramazeka BJ
Will you smear, preferably larger? Where do you get such smart people? And when it comes to arguing, you go off the rails...

zicoss
Nonsense about the fact that the dealer can throw not only in a given sector, but at least in the given 10 numbers located nearby... It's even funny, all such dealers would have been "bought up" by players long ago and they would throw on request and then divide the money in half... funny! In America, they tested roulette: the device launches the ball at a given speed and the same speed of the wheel and the ball still falls anywhere. The only thing that takes place is the device that in 4-5 turns of the ball determines the place where it will begin the trajectory of the fall, but there is also an internal wheel and there are diamonds that still give an error. In any case, this is determined in the process of rotating the ball, when the bets on the track are already closed. So if there are such specialists, please enlighten us about your accuracy of hits.

Gramazeka BJ
I agree with every word. You start to understand.

zicoss
Are you kidding about "starting to figure it out"? I have no illusions about roulette. It's a set of randomness, only "Alternating randomness".

Gramazeka BJ
It seems like you wrote something different at the beginning of the topic ;)
I'm answering you as an expert in games against casinos-
1. Roulette has a negative mathematical expectation (-2.7%). This means that for every $100 placed on the table, the casino takes $2.7 over the long term. No system works on roulette. The ball has no memory, each throw is a completely new event, and if 5 red numbers come up in a row, this does not mean that black will come up on the 6th time. Conclusion - you absolutely cannot play roulette!
2. Regarding Black Jack-
In Blackjack, 5 discarded cards do not give any error. Your statement is an ordinary statement of an amateur. Let me explain - in "Radmir" and "Misto" in Blackjack, 7 decks participate in the game, unlike the world practice of 6-deck Blackjack. 7 decks are 364 cards, of which an average of 5 out of 7 decks are cut into the game, i.e. 210 known cards will participate in the game. Imagine that the 5 discarded cards are behind the cut card, i.e. they will always remain unknown. What will this change? What error did you mean, I can't understand?
Why do casinos discard 5 cards? The answer is that they don't undercut under marked cards. The thing is that if a player gets an Ace as the first card, the player gets an advantage of +52%. Accordingly, if you undercut under a marked Ace and it comes to you as the first card, you need to play for one box and place the maximum possible bet. In the long run, you will get +52$ from every $100 you bet.
Next-
The player's advantage in Blackjack is the same - on the first deck, on the last one. Another thing is the dispersion. This means that the advantage on the last deck will be felt faster because we have fewer cards in the game. Further, for understanding, I advise you to study such mathematical aspects as "Law of large numbers", "Dispersion", "Standard deviation" and "Mathematical expectation".
The casino has an advantage over the player in Blackjack because we are the first to hit. That is, if we go overboard, the dealer automatically wins, even if he has a 6 in his hand.
Another thing is that the player has an advantage in payments. Having Black Jack on his hand, the dealer takes one bet, and the player, on the contrary, is paid one to one and a half. Card counters take advantage of this - when a lot of small cards come out - it is advisable to think about increasing the bet.
Don't worry about professional or non-professional dealers - they all deal the same. Another thing is the speed of the game - for me it is important. The faster they deal me, the faster I will reach my mathematical expectation due to a greater number of events, according to the "Law of Large Numbers". As you can see, experienced dealers deal faster.
You can buy mathematical strategies for Russian poker, as well as the analyzer program, either from me or on specialized sites that I can suggest.

SmartVed
My advice to you is to choose a game for yourself in which, according to mathematical statistics, the casino will not have a positive mathematical expectation, i.e. for roulette: the casino plays its fortune precisely on the fact that the chance of winning from them is about 52.7% against the chance of winning for the player 47.3% (with one zero, if in the American version of roulette, then there is even less chance for the player to win from the casino - 55.4%).
An example of such a game is poker - here, people with experience can really have fun. After all, they play, in fact, not against the casino, but with each other.

1. Russian poker is a negative game if you play one-on-one with the dealer and can only see your 5 cards for analysis. But it becomes positive if you have 10 cards in your review, that is, you can see five additional cards from the neighboring box. But again, your actions in exchanging cards should be strictly according to the strategy that you have previously learned and fixed on the analyzer.
2. The +1, -1 system in Blackjack is truly one of the simplest and at the same time powerful systems. But it's not that simple. You have to count without mistakes and at the same time divide the current count by the number of decks remaining in the game, and then decide to raise or lower the bet. For now, learn the basic strategy, and if you feel the strength and desire, proceed to conquer the secrets of Blackjack further.

Basic Blackjack Strategy

Comment: A basic strategy is a set of rules for a player that allows him to minimize his expected loss or maximize his expected gain in each specific hand.
A soft hand, as opposed to a hard hand, is a hand in which an ace can count as 11 points without going bust.
X stands for any 10-point card, A stands for an ace.

1. Don't take out insurance.

2. "Firm" hands.
Against dealer 2.3 – take up to a solid 13.
Against dealer 4,5,6 – take up to a solid 12.
Against dealer 7,8,9,X,A – take up to a solid 17.

3. "Soft" hands.
Against dealer 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 – take up to soft 18.
Against dealer 9,X,A – take until soft 19.

4. "Hard" double (doubling).
With your 10 and 11 – double against the dealer’s 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.
With your 9 – double against the dealer’s 3,4,5,6.

5. "Soft" double (doubling).
With your A,2 and A,3, double against the dealer's 5,6.
With your A,4 and A,5 – double against the dealer’s 4,5,6.
With your A,6 and A,7 – double against the dealer’s 3,4,5,6.

6. Splitting.
With your 2.2 and 3.3, split against the dealer's 2.3.4.5.6.7.
With your 4.4, split against the dealer's 5.6.
With your 5.5 - don't split (double against the dealer's 2-9).
With your 6.6, split against the dealer's 2.3.4.5.6.
With your 7.7, split against the dealer's 2,3,4,5,6,7.
With your 8.8, split against the dealer's 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.
With your 9.9 – split against the dealer’s 2,3,4,5,6,8,9 (from 2 to 9, but not against 7).
At your X,X – do not split (stand).
With your A,A – split against the dealer’s 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,X.

7. Surrender, refusal.
Against the dealer A - surrender on your hard 5,6,7 and 12,13,14,15,16,17 (including on pairs).
Against the dealer X - surrender on your solid 14,15,16 (including at 7,7 and 8,8).
Against the dealer's 9 - surrender on your solid 16 (split on 8.8).


Gramazeka BJ
"There are thousands of betting systems when playing roulette, every successful player considers it his duty to declare that his system provides a guaranteed profit. However, this is not true. There is no way to turn an unprofitable game into a game that brings a guaranteed win. This problem is very similar to the problem of a perpetual motion machine. No matter what system (or no system!) you play, the expected loss of the player is always on average 2.703% (in French roulette) of the total amount of money bet, if you play long enough. This can be seen in the example of one of the most discussed systems - Martingale.

zicoss
Dear comrade, Mathematician, I agree with you and with mathematics - there is no system that guarantees a win, they only help to play "correctly" and keep the exchange amount under control. Do not forget that in your favorite game Black Jack, with any calculations, the outgoing card can be any, even with the highest probability that the desired card will be ...
If you bet on red in a casino and you're stubbornly unlucky, try betting on red!
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Pyotr Andreich had not been very fond of card games since childhood and sat down at the roulette table. A pretty waitress immediately appeared and offered him a drink and a snack: “all on the house” – Pyotr Andreich, feeling a pleasant buzz in his head – a consequence not only of the cognac, but also, apparently, of the excitement – ordered coffee.
He put ten dollars (casino bets were usually denominated in American currency) on the third dozen – won twenty. Smiling, he left all thirty lying on the roulette table – the second dozen came up again, and he won sixty. Then, having exchanged the chips for color, he began to bet on the sixlines and columns. “You are a born gambler, Pyotr Andreevich,” joked the graduates, who quickly lost at poker. “No problem, no problem, but you will definitely be lucky in love,” Kruglov answered them.
As a result, in a couple of hours Pyotr Andreevich won 500 dollars – a sum almost equivalent to his monthly salary at the Academy. In his joy, he bought a bouquet of roses at a kiosk and gave it to his wife – she, who had already managed to get out of the habit of this kind of attention, was amazed and flattered.
The next time Pyotr Andreevich went to Caligula, he had received his salary. That evening the casino was full: noise, cigarette smoke, joyful shouts; they were playing at high stakes, it turned out it was the day of the car raffle, which, as Kruglov later learned, were held regularly in the city's large casinos - although he had never had any luck in them.
This time fortune was not at all kind – Pyotr Andreevich lost everything, went home and, without answering his wife's questions, took his stash. He returned only in the morning, with red eyes, but satisfied: he had managed to fight back. A card is not a horse – you'll get lucky by morning, he heard a casino saying much later, having already started playing poker.
If you bet on red in a casino and you're stubbornly unlucky, try betting on red!
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2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago
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you are just actively looking for fools
On the contrary, I discourage everyone from playing in casinos without knowledge of the mathematics of games and knowledge of strategies.

zicoss
I would also add "... without the availability of revolving funds that are not the last in the personal or family budget..." This is perhaps more important. Often I have seen strategists who scraped the last from their wallets in the hope of...

jaja
----Are you familiar with the Kharkiv blacklist? Or such players?
I know him;) when I'm in Kharkov there's no one to even go with :) everyone's on the blacklist:D

Cranberry
I have not seen tables with a spread of 25-500 in Kharkov. All 25-300 UAH. The fact is not in favor of the player. Once I saw a table with a spread of 5-500$ on old documentary filming, but I understood that these were the times of Thorpe and the good guys from MTI, with such a spread you can play without any system. And now I don’t know what you see here as the point, I am increasingly convinced that all this has gone rotten, you sit, count and wait, but what to expect when 2 decks are cut off and this is in the best case. And it turns out that everything that you pulled at 0 you lose at +, but with different amounts. I don’t know about you, but out of 10 chances, 2-3 get through for me. Instead of mathematical expectation, you begin to believe in mysticism. Of course, I wanted to talk about this topic, write

VorteP
When you lose 100 UAH in the casino, you give me another 50.
If you follow this rule, I guarantee 100% results.


ki5ok
No, no, what are you saying! In the casino there is only charity, virtue, altruism.

sania4m
25.04.2018, 19:44
I only play in virtual reality, but not otherwise.

Level_UP
Gramazeka, I'm sorry, but everything you wrote in this thread is heresy.
You contradict yourself on many points.
I won't prove anything. I just don't want to waste time on it.
I will say only one thing - in a casino you can only win (at best), but you cannot earn money in a casino. And you can win for various reasons, but not thanks to mathematics.
1.There are no winning strategies in roulette.
2. I don't trust online casinos.
Well, there are offices where you can play blackjack with a live dealer, there is a video broadcast of the game in real time, and you can even communicate with the dealer in the chat, at first glance everything seems transparent
or could there be pitfalls there too?

Aerko
I spent about a year of my life on limit hold'em (online, of course), a disgusting and depressing activity, six hours of playing, two hours of watching vods, two or three hours of theory and debriefing.
At micro limits I played +2.1BB, at medium limits almost at zero, sometimes I was a brutal gambler, sometimes I went on tilt and lost up to half of all my money.
Maybe I'm not psychologically stable enough, but by God! It's easier to unload wagons, it's such a huge strain on the brain and health.
in the end I closed the account and forgot about it like it was a bad dream

Vasya Khrenov
I was angry that I was losing, that's all. If I was lucky, this dealer would be the best.
I was there and saw everything.

Denikes
tie it up

Gramazeka BJ
In Kiev - casino "Slavutich" - non-payment of 10,000 USD. Motivation - you are a professional player. Casino "Salut" - non-payment of 1,500 USD - the same reason. Casino "Premier Palace" - won 50,000 USD - the next day it didn't work - lost all the winnings, after - the game was stopped, with inclusion in the blacklist, as professional players.

Ingvars
Yes, there are woodpeckers everywhere - deprived of understanding how to behave and what to say. Sometimes in a VIP establishment the whole team pulls up to a shawarma-hall
Roulette is a gold mine for casinos! How easily it takes away dishonestly earned hryvnias... Today I saw how in Misto a man lost 3 thousand in half an hour on dozens and columns...without a system

zicoss
For fans of slot machines: I accidentally noticed how a girl manager in a casino approached the slot machines, opened service information and rewrote some data. I was nearby, she did not notice me, but I NOTICED important numbers in large font: INPUT - 635632, OUTPUT - 412349. It was the "Creazy Moonky" machine. I do not know what numbers it was in, but the important thing here is that the return here is only 65%, while in world casinos in machines there should be an average of 95-97%. And what can we say about machines in eateries near shawarma??? Draw your own conclusions.

natalazin
Playing slot machines means not respecting yourself!!!

Dzxtckfd
I have a croupier friend (he hasn't worked for almost 10 years) and he would throw out the same number three times in a row on a bet for a case of champagne. And here's what he told me about "counters" - they either beat them immediately when they calculate or take away the winnings in different amounts from 50 to 70%. And he also often told me about those lucky ones who go out of the casino with a sum of more than $10,000, they usually let them out for 30% of the winnings, they brought up a very serious argument - you won't get home enough, otherwise we'll call a taxi.
It is extremely difficult to throw out a number - any normal dealer can throw out a number plus or minus neighbors (i.e. a sector). I myself threw out "0" when necessary and "black" 13 times in a row (but that was out of fear:love:), and I don't believe that they don't let you go with the winnings - the guy will never show up at the casino again and will tell others, but it is necessary...

Jora05
You know, sometimes I allow myself to play online slots.
If you bet on red in a casino and you're stubbornly unlucky, try betting on red!
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prrt
tell interesting stories
on the pneumatic roulette on the south railway (Karla-Marla) the color came up 14 times in a row... I even took pictures... when I was playing I knew all the numbers in the circle..=)))) in order not to get into trouble I took a certain amount initially and not a penny more..
I can't understand this kind of waste of money at all...
and you try it...for days in front of your eyes "damn" and numbers numbers numbers...and you'll improve your math..=)))

BratK
"It is extremely difficult to throw out a number - the number plus or minus the neighbors (i.e. the sector) can be any normal dealer. I myself threw out "0" when necessary"
I've heard this story 100 times, but I've never seen any confirmation.
and 13 times "black" in a row (but that's from fear:love:), and I don't believe that they don't let you go with the winnings - the guy won't show up at the casino again and will tell others, but it's necessary...


natalazin
Someone against electronic and pneumatic roulettes thinks that it has an advantage! ha-ha


Dux Arthur
Keep playing, ghouls. There is no easy money. And if there is, it goes away just as easily.

basconi
And if I've only been to a casino once and won, is that also an event worth noting? ha-ha...

mr.greenn
2.5 years worked in an elite hall. I will not specify the company) there were 2 normal networks in Kharkov (before closing). and I can tell you the following - the whole gambling theme is a psychological hook, and it is not even about the systematicity and not about the % of charge of the equipment or the mathematical percentage if we are talking about a live game without the use of electronics. and especially the reaction of a particular psychotype to winning / losing. in the long run, no one has a chance.

Ingvars
Clever girl, he said it right - a person mainly loses because he is psychologically unstable, depends on the result of winning, the number or card, changes his plans and strategies, focuses on imaginary patterns, does not have a sufficient reserve of funds during the game, is limited by the size of the bets... The main losses are precisely because of psychology. I am sure that 99% of players before and during their visits to the casino did not read any educational literature in this direction...

Mik4839
In roulette, it is almost impossible to win, only the casino wins. Holdem poker is much more interesting, everything can be calculated with mathematics.

gavroche
I recently withdrew a jackpot of $10k (7 on the first day and 3 on the second). I spent it in a week :D on cognac and cigars :ha:

Enclave_east
I once dug up a roulette from Argus here, well, for some time it was simply available to me and stood idle, I spun it, threw the ball, won on my own, then I went to Misto, also won a little according to the same scheme, did the same a couple of times more and gave up, why, I don’t know, apparently because there was no more money that I could risk, I always needed something, and for this, that money is needed, maybe there was less sloppiness in my head, in general, it doesn’t pull me yet and anyway, if you win, it’s all exposed and they just won’t let you in one fine day, the casino is also zitro-ass, they only let you lose, so that you can earn money, apparently you need to live with it...


HU-ist
I once dug up a roulette from Argus here, well, for some time it was just available to me and stood idle, I spun it, threw the ball, won on my own, then I went to the city, also won a little, according to the same scheme, did the same a couple of times and gave up, why, I don’t know, apparently because there was no more money that I could risk, I always needed something, and for this, that I needed money, maybe there was less sloppiness in my head, in general, I’m not attracted to it yet and anyway, if I win, it’s all exposed and they just won’t let me in one fine day, the casino is also zitro-ass, they only let you lose, so that you can earn money, apparently you need to live... how fucking tired you are. You fucking computer-stripper. How much more bullshit can I talk?:D
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