Gramazeka BJ
Regarding America - it all started with America back in the 60s of the last century, thanks to Thorpe and his book "Beat the Dealer". And believe me, they know how to calculate counters there faster than anyone)) But I don't lose heart and visit countries like Egypt, Northern Cyprus, etc. - I've traveled half the world and almost everywhere I've been I have blacklists. By the way, in Northern Cyprus, where there are about 20 casinos, Russian professionals have brought the local casino management to the point that they simply don't let you into the local casinos if you are a former citizen of the Soviet Union. The reason is that about 5 serious teams of professional players from Lithuania, Ukraine and Russia have distinguished themselves. These teams have won more than a million dollars in the last couple of years. Almost the same situation is in Sharm el-Sheikh - Russians are allowed in, but with great caution and allergies))
Regarding the secrets of winning - it was correctly said earlier in this topic - YOU SHOULD NOT PLAY GAMES WITH NEGATIVE MATHEMATICAL EXPECTATION. And this is the MAIN THING. Roulette is one of these games. It cannot be beaten by ANY system. It can only be beaten with a scanner or late bets (but this is a separate topic). In Blackjack and poker against the casino, you can turn the mathematical expectation in favor of the player, thanks to memorizing information about the cards that came out. And then, as you said - you need to play only according to the system and again only according to the system! And then - mental stability and nerves of steel.
Sergey tel
"I played roulette a little, because I almost never won on numbers, if I did bet, it was only on red or black, and according to my calculations, the loss is in the lead. And of course, there is no point in betting chips on many numbers at once. I play in the casino mainly on slot machines for small amounts of money, so that the pictures match, I want to learn to play poker well, but it is so difficult."
nothing complicated! start with a regular game on the computer to understand the rules!
Gramazeka BJ
Don't drive women into fornication)) Playing, and especially professional play, is a man's business.
Ruslan2
open your casino and forget about the problem..
Gramazeka BJ
I'm ready to smear him, only more so that he wouldn't even get into one issue by order. Regarding the beatings - you've clearly watched too many movies. Everything you wrote is the fairy tales of grandma Arina Rodionovna))
Arnold Snyder
DIVINE REVELATION
Swami Pastrami, the Great Guru of Gambling, had a dream one night that all the croupiers were strangled by their bow ties and fell into 100-gallon barrels of tomato soup. The next morning he announced the following message to his followers: “I have had a vision! Let each of you send me $10 and let me share with you the secret of unheard-of wealth!”
Swami's million followers all sent him the money he wanted, making Swami a very rich saint. Swami responded by sending each of his disciples his interpretation of the strange dream: "Find a croupier with a crooked bow tie and bet $100 on red. Double your bet until you become rich!"
Swami Pastrami himself did not yet know that he had made a mistake in interpreting his dream, which was not of divine origin, as he had assumed, but was caused by too many jalapeno peppers that he had eaten the day before.
Over the next month, all one million of Swami's followers found a dealer with their ties slid off and placed $100 bets. Since the odds of winning on such a bet are 18 out of 38, 526,316 players lost their money, while 473,684 won. The losers, disillusioned, stopped betting, but the winners thanked Swami and soon they all bet $200 on red. As expected, 249,307 lost their money and quit. But 224,377 players won, and, delighted, bet $400 on red. This time, 118,093 lost and 106,284 won. These players, now betting $800, were firm believers in Swami's ideas and his system. Interestingly, the casinos have also believed in this system! Since the Swami's disciples began playing, the casinos have already won a total of almost $15 million from these followers alone!
Word spread among the casinos, and soon an amendment to the rules was passed by law - every follower of Swami had the right to bet any amount, regardless of the maximum set by the casino. And in the whole world there was not a single croupier left whose tie was tied evenly.
The remaining 106,284 followers bet $800 on red. At that point, there were 50,345 remaining, each betting $1,600. After another bet, the number of remaining players was reduced to 23,848, each betting $3,200. The next bet saw fewer players, with 11,296 remaining, each betting $6,400. After another bet, there were only 5,351 remaining. And the stakes had risen to $12,800. And after another bet increase, there were 2,535 players. And the stakes were $25,600. These people were now openly praising Swami Pastrami as a genius. After another bet, there were 1,201 remaining followers, each with $51,200.
Swami, meanwhile, launched a new advertising campaign that was based on real facts: "Over 400,000 of my followers doubled their capital in the first day! Over 1,200 of my most loyal disciples turned their initial $100 into over $50,000!"
There is a moral to the story. Just because one individual got rich using an inexplicable system is not proof that the system is a winner. Be wary of system sellers who use testimonials from successful users as advertising. While these testimonials may be honest, that player's success over a short period of time means absolutely nothing.
If you're wondering what happened next to the remaining 1,201 followers of Swami Pastrami, after eight bets on Swami's system, there were only three people left, each with more than $13 million in capital. By this time, the casinos had won more than $60 million from Swami's disciples.
Seeing their following steadily dwindle, the three wise men decided not to bet any more. Instead, they each paid a million dollars to their teacher for the right to franchise Swami Pastrami's system in their area. Each made their second $13 million in half the time they made their first.
Yuri Batkovich
Then know that your friend lied to you.
The Soothsayer
Myth: The dealer cannot throw in the right sector.
I have one such myth, on a bet of five hundred bucks, 7 out of 10 times I put 17 with my neighbors. Not during the game, of course.
And it’s a complete myth that if someone at the table plays big on chances, the zero-spiel will most often fall.
Gramazeka BJ
What kind of miss was it? That he would hit 5 numbers 7 times out of 10? I'm ready to miss against the dealer like that. Only bigger... (I'm not kidding).
KAC
Casinos are evil.
zicoss
For me it makes sense to see the brain and strategy in action that bears fruit when playing with a casino. It is also interesting to see how you will not be allowed to play if you win. For you it could only make sense that I will make an exchange for you with my card, but if all the dealers, bosses and pit bosses know you and panic arises when they see your face, then I don’t even know...
I agree with the opinion "A respectable casino does not "magnetize" the ball" - although I have repeatedly noticed when during the game regular chaotic stops of the ball indicating a free choice of sector sometimes alternated with a not entirely clear sticking in the sector, and after the ball stopped, after a second it shifted under the action of centrifugal force to the edge (rear) side of the sector (analogous to an electronic roulette, where the ball falls into magnetized sectors - 100%). I paid attention to this in Misto, Metropol, Colosseum and others, although in Misto there is a device with which, at the request of the client, they can check the presence of metal in the ball (although we all know that technology allows magnetizing different materials). I do not argue that this is a fact and takes place, but often the trajectory of the landing and vibrations of the ball cause such suspicions. But in any case, if this exists, then there must be operators and more than one who would monitor the bets and "regulate" them, and this could already become known.
----In Kharkov I play in two casinos, but I will not "advertise" them and myself in particular, when I am in Kyiv, I go to the Premier Palace
----If you trace the fall of any sectors and their neighbors, then according to visual sensations, repetitions of the neighbors of the previous fallen number fall most often. But this is not a statement, but only a visual perception. So playing with neighbors makes sense.
Exodus_
Playing in a casino is the same addiction (literally) as tobacco, alcohol, drugs. We don't play in a casino, we earn money honestly and enjoy the fruit of our hands-)
DrKukk
"You need to focus on the criteria of gambling addiction. If most of the criteria show signs of gambling addiction and attempts to solve the problem on your own have been unsuccessful, then you cannot put off contacting specialists. The most important criterion is that gambling creates problems in family and other relationships, debts grow, emotional instability and other mental problems appear."
Gramazeka BJ
On average, a professional Blackjack player has an income per hour equal to one maximum table bet. That is, if the table is 25-500 UAH, then on average the player will have a profit of 500 UAH per hour. I have played in a team for 5,000 euros in a box. This was in Cannes.
The average win depends roughly on the size of the bank and the risks, as well as on the hours worked, plus the speed of the game (no less important).
Gramazeka BJ
Will you smear, preferably larger? Where do you get such smart people? And when it comes to arguing, you go off the rails...
zicoss
Nonsense about the fact that the dealer can throw not only in a given sector, but at least in the given 10 numbers located nearby... It's even funny, all such dealers would have been "bought up" by players long ago and they would throw on request and then divide the money in half... funny! In America, they tested roulette: the device launches the ball at a given speed and the same speed of the wheel and the ball still falls anywhere. The only thing that takes place is the device that in 4-5 turns of the ball determines the place where it will begin the trajectory of the fall, but there is also an internal wheel and there are diamonds that still give an error. In any case, this is determined in the process of rotating the ball, when the bets on the track are already closed. So if there are such specialists, please enlighten us about your accuracy of hits.
Gramazeka BJ
I agree with every word. You start to understand.
zicoss
Are you kidding about "starting to figure it out"? I have no illusions about roulette. It's a set of randomness, only "Alternating randomness".
Gramazeka BJ
It seems like you wrote something different at the beginning of the topic

I'm answering you as an expert in games against casinos-
1. Roulette has a negative mathematical expectation (-2.7%). This means that for every $100 placed on the table, the casino takes $2.7 over the long term. No system works on roulette. The ball has no memory, each throw is a completely new event, and if 5 red numbers come up in a row, this does not mean that black will come up on the 6th time. Conclusion - you absolutely cannot play roulette!
2. Regarding Black Jack-
In Blackjack, 5 discarded cards do not give any error. Your statement is an ordinary statement of an amateur. Let me explain - in "Radmir" and "Misto" in Blackjack, 7 decks participate in the game, unlike the world practice of 6-deck Blackjack. 7 decks are 364 cards, of which an average of 5 out of 7 decks are cut into the game, i.e. 210 known cards will participate in the game. Imagine that the 5 discarded cards are behind the cut card, i.e. they will always remain unknown. What will this change? What error did you mean, I can't understand?
Why do casinos discard 5 cards? The answer is that they don't undercut under marked cards. The thing is that if a player gets an Ace as the first card, the player gets an advantage of +52%. Accordingly, if you undercut under a marked Ace and it comes to you as the first card, you need to play for one box and place the maximum possible bet. In the long run, you will get +52$ from every $100 you bet.
Next-
The player's advantage in Blackjack is the same - on the first deck, on the last one. Another thing is the dispersion. This means that the advantage on the last deck will be felt faster because we have fewer cards in the game. Further, for understanding, I advise you to study such mathematical aspects as "Law of large numbers", "Dispersion", "Standard deviation" and "Mathematical expectation".
The casino has an advantage over the player in Blackjack because we are the first to hit. That is, if we go overboard, the dealer automatically wins, even if he has a 6 in his hand.
Another thing is that the player has an advantage in payments. Having Black Jack on his hand, the dealer takes one bet, and the player, on the contrary, is paid one to one and a half. Card counters take advantage of this - when a lot of small cards come out - it is advisable to think about increasing the bet.
Don't worry about professional or non-professional dealers - they all deal the same. Another thing is the speed of the game - for me it is important. The faster they deal me, the faster I will reach my mathematical expectation due to a greater number of events, according to the "Law of Large Numbers". As you can see, experienced dealers deal faster.
You can buy mathematical strategies for Russian poker, as well as the analyzer program, either from me or on specialized sites that I can suggest.
SmartVed
My advice to you is to choose a game for yourself in which, according to mathematical statistics, the casino will not have a positive mathematical expectation, i.e. for roulette: the casino plays its fortune precisely on the fact that the chance of winning from them is about 52.7% against the chance of winning for the player 47.3% (with one zero, if in the American version of roulette, then there is even less chance for the player to win from the casino - 55.4%).
An example of such a game is poker - here, people with experience can really have fun. After all, they play, in fact, not against the casino, but with each other.
1. Russian poker is a negative game if you play one-on-one with the dealer and can only see your 5 cards for analysis. But it becomes positive if you have 10 cards in your review, that is, you can see five additional cards from the neighboring box. But again, your actions in exchanging cards should be strictly according to the strategy that you have previously learned and fixed on the analyzer.
2. The +1, -1 system in Blackjack is truly one of the simplest and at the same time powerful systems. But it's not that simple. You have to count without mistakes and at the same time divide the current count by the number of decks remaining in the game, and then decide to raise or lower the bet. For now, learn the basic strategy, and if you feel the strength and desire, proceed to conquer the secrets of Blackjack further.
Basic Blackjack Strategy
Comment: A basic strategy is a set of rules for a player that allows him to minimize his expected loss or maximize his expected gain in each specific hand.
A soft hand, as opposed to a hard hand, is a hand in which an ace can count as 11 points without going bust.
X stands for any 10-point card, A stands for an ace.
1. Don't take out insurance.
2. "Firm" hands.
Against dealer 2.3 – take up to a solid 13.
Against dealer 4,5,6 – take up to a solid 12.
Against dealer 7,8,9,X,A – take up to a solid 17.
3. "Soft" hands.
Against dealer 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 – take up to soft 18.
Against dealer 9,X,A – take until soft 19.
4. "Hard" double (doubling).
With your 10 and 11 – double against the dealer’s 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.
With your 9 – double against the dealer’s 3,4,5,6.
5. "Soft" double (doubling).
With your A,2 and A,3, double against the dealer's 5,6.
With your A,4 and A,5 – double against the dealer’s 4,5,6.
With your A,6 and A,7 – double against the dealer’s 3,4,5,6.
6. Splitting.
With your 2.2 and 3.3, split against the dealer's 2.3.4.5.6.7.
With your 4.4, split against the dealer's 5.6.
With your 5.5 - don't split (double against the dealer's 2-9).
With your 6.6, split against the dealer's 2.3.4.5.6.
With your 7.7, split against the dealer's 2,3,4,5,6,7.
With your 8.8, split against the dealer's 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.
With your 9.9 – split against the dealer’s 2,3,4,5,6,8,9 (from 2 to 9, but not against 7).
At your X,X – do not split (stand).
With your A,A – split against the dealer’s 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,X.
7. Surrender, refusal.
Against the dealer A - surrender on your hard 5,6,7 and 12,13,14,15,16,17 (including on pairs).
Against the dealer X - surrender on your solid 14,15,16 (including at 7,7 and 8,

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Against the dealer's 9 - surrender on your solid 16 (split on 8.

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Gramazeka BJ
"There are thousands of betting systems when playing roulette, every successful player considers it his duty to declare that his system provides a guaranteed profit. However, this is not true. There is no way to turn an unprofitable game into a game that brings a guaranteed win. This problem is very similar to the problem of a perpetual motion machine. No matter what system (or no system!) you play, the expected loss of the player is always on average 2.703% (in French roulette) of the total amount of money bet, if you play long enough. This can be seen in the example of one of the most discussed systems - Martingale.
zicoss
Dear comrade, Mathematician, I agree with you and with mathematics - there is no system that guarantees a win, they only help to play "correctly" and keep the exchange amount under control. Do not forget that in your favorite game Black Jack, with any calculations, the outgoing card can be any, even with the highest probability that the desired card will be ...