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Secondly, it doesn't always work out online. Last time I got hit by a hard adaptive and lost a grand (no options at all, we didn't even play splits). Did you just go in with 1000 at once and go for it, or did you go in several times in total for a piece? no. I lost 300 (the remainder after a large...

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Losing Caution and LOSS in Casino

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Losing Caution and LOSS in Casino

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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DLK wrote: Do not remember God in vain :side:
Had to remove religious themes. Sorry if I cut off someone's important thoughts. :blush:



Alexey wrote: I am writing in the context of the topic - I am a gambling addict, thanks to such ttrams, shpilevykh, kozenkovykh and other vitus. I am writing in the context of the topic (damn, not what I want) - I HAVE BEEN LOADING MY ENTIRE SALARY EVERY MONTH FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS.


How can Shpilevoy be put on the same level as simple affiliates "space for 200" and "I was sitting here spinning and accidentally hit the jackpot"?

The problem is specific and is voiced: “I HAVE BEEN SPENDING MY ENTIRE SALARY EVERY MONTH FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS.”
Obviously, we need to stop doing this.

Step 1. Stop playing for money altogether. There are always wrappers.
Objection?
Candy wrappers
a) do not insert
b) they won't return what they've already lost
Working with objections.
What has already been lost is in the past and cannot be changed. It is necessary to fix the loss in your head and not get attached to it at all. For now.
The pleasure of a winning bet or a $100+ is not worth the consequences of losing another salary. It is not comparable and this needs to be realized.

Step 2. You need a game strategy and BRM, confirmed by your own statistics, which gives profit, not losses.
First, beat the candy wrappers. Play to the recording and keep an accurate record of the credit dynamics.
Only when you see for yourself that after 50-100 games you are still in the black on play money, only then play with small deposits.
And only after you have worked in the plus for 1-2 months on small deposits, only then start to gradually increase the scale of your games.
To the point where efficiency is lost. There will be a threshold of claims for payment that you will not pass without understanding the adaptive.
There is a huge difference in the game on the scale of +/- $10 and +/- $1000.

Step 3.
While you are doing the first 2 steps, the financial situation will stabilize, the wound will heal. Playing in the casino will become more of a hobby, experience will be added.
You will understand that normal people first play something and only then get bigger in the game. There is no point in limiting yourself and your family in everything, creating problems for yourself by throwing your entire salary into the casino's furnace.
You need to play from a free spirit, and not under the burden of created problems.


An example of INCORRECT thinking.

Salary 30 thousand rubles.
Household needs, food, accommodation, etc. 15 thousand modestly
Loans, assistance to parents, etc. 10 thousand.
There are 5 thousand available.
Why not multiply them in a casino? Especially since a year ago I went from $30 to $500, the fool didn't withdraw it, but at least I managed to get $300 in my hands. Who's a good boy? I'm a good boy!

We don’t consider the situation when you double them, because the next day you will condemn these 10 thousand.
Lost 5 thousand. No free money.
I want to play, but I don’t have money.

Life throws up unplanned expenses, for example a pipe bursts, you need to go to the dentist, or your shoe breaks.
Where to get money?
Ordinary people borrow and then pay back from their salaries.
But we know how to make them out of thin air!
And here, in the name of a noble goal, a restrained desire to have sex gets its green card! I'm not playing!!! I really need a LITTLE money.

There are 25 thousand allocated funds.
Why not take 5-10 thousand (squeeze some articles, parents will miss a turn this month, maybe even share the pension, etc.), do x2x3 and solve all the important issues, including returning those 5 thousand that have already been lost.
Holy cause! Especially since there's plenty of time before the end of the month, we'll think of something. As a last resort, I'll borrow or steal from someone.
These 10 thousand were also lost in heavy fighting.

Half of the salary is missing.
I didn't resolve the issues, I cut the budget. I urgently need money!!!
But instead of borrowing the required amount and then coughing up the debts, the player creates a zugzwang for himself. Each time, he needs to take less and less from the family budget to play, and to solve the problems and return the loss, he needs more and more money.

Zugzwang (German: Zugzwang "forced move"; ☉) is a situation in checkers and chess in which any move by a player leads to a worsening of his position.


As a result, instead of 5 thousand free money, almost the entire monthly salary was lost and, in the best case, all the throat issues received only 5 thousand.



This is the PATHOLOGICAL LOSER SCENARIO.



It's stupid to hope for a bird of luck. It's more likely to be a crane in the ass. And with each month of such a scenario, the crane becomes fatter and fatter :woohoo:
Especially those who do not listen to the advice of CMP, Shpilevoy and respected miners.

For example
How about the central idea that you should allocate no more than 10% of your monthly income to the game. And only when the IF is filled, you will make a safety cushion, only then you can enlarge your games and catch a tit x100 x1000 in the sky.

Taking into account the constant repairs of the IF, the process of its filling looks like this



Only working schemes that more or less stable increase deposits turn the dynamics of credits up. Because there is an opportunity to lose half of the games.

Rare luck like this stabilizes the upward movement and adds strength. But for this, you need to include such options in your strategies and do it reasonably




Write in detail how your last game at the casino went. There are obviously a lot of gross errors and wrong decisions.
And even if you lost it, you were obliged to create conditions for credit growth in the longrun. And this is not "space at 200" or 3 hours "20 lines at 0.01".
Losses are the other side of winnings. Your coin is half ready :pinch: everyone can lose, you don't need much intelligence.



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good comment in the neighboring thread about gambling addicts
but AVAX took a strong global position))))
the player starts the losing scenarios much earlier = IN THE GAME ITSELF
I will show the psychology of losing using an example
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Re: Losing Caution and LOSS in Casino

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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for example, a person allocated 2000 for the game
let's assume that this money is critical, 1000 should have been spent on current business needs
but for the sake of distance and greater chances to catch on, the player still combined the amount
he plans to make at least +1000


1. DO NOT PLAY WITH CRITICAL MONEY
= it was not possible to increase the deposit
it's right to spend 1000 where necessary, and move on with the remaining 1000
(or postpone the game until a time when you can CALMLY add more money to the deposit)

2. CASH SUPPLY MATTERS
the desire to increase the initial amount was correct
with a cut deposit there will often be a situation where you simply don't have enough to make a couple of moves before solving the puzzle that changes the whole outcome

3. TOO MUCH MONEY = BAD
the deposit should be familiar, from which you have passed the multiplication many times
from $50 it's much easier to make $500
than to make 5000 from 500
in most cases, except for days of extreme goodwill, when only the lazy don't get rain )))))


in short,
first block of games 400 out of 2000
the person plays VERY CAREFULLY, according to familiar patterns
but IT DOESN'T GIVE
-400 result


Well, this is a normal situation
who said that it should be x10 right away????

the second block is another 400 out of the remaining 1600
the person plays VERY CAREFULLY, according to familiar patterns
but already understands that +400 is just a return to his own, and he still needs to earn something....
but IT DOESN'T GIVE
total result -800 and 1200 left


to be honest, casino games are designed in such a way that "IT DOESN'T GIVE" is more in the player's head
in fact, it probably gave +200 in the process, but since they do not close the -400 from the first session, they DO NOT COUNT AS PROFIT
and the player continues.....
well let's assume that it's true IT DOESN'T even give +1 to the invested


two losses force to change FRAME = place of the game and set of games
since -800 needs to be recouped, a decision was made to invest everything in the third session
start 1200, play style is a little MORE AGGRESSIVE
from this start the player reaches 2200, but does not stop
after all, it's "only" 2000 the very beginning and only +200 plus = kopecks, after all, +1000 was needed
But.......
villain fate.....
nothing fired and the balance is zero
total of the day -2000


1) in principle, BRM is correct in terms of costs and level of aggressiveness
2) competent DISTANCE bore fruit = the balance was fully returned and even some plus
3) there was no REPAIR IF!
at 2200 it was necessary to withdraw everything, and start with the initial 400 +200 plus
It was also necessary to reduce aggressiveness
4) these unnoticed +200 are the worst...
in case of a deep drawdown (and in this case the ENTIRE STOCK OF MONEY was put to work) a return "to one's own" is a blessing,
if the player perceives it as "just" = HE WILL LOSE AGAIN AND AGAIN

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5) FOUNDATION is a properly organized cycle of growth and losses with mandatory repairs of the IF instead of trying to GRAB (after all, last year it was possible to rip off x500 on the last big hit)
Casino games will not always choke you to the point of exhaustion.....
There will OBLIGATORY be cycles from the first moves that bring a normal portion of profit


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your understanding of CAREFUL and AGGRESSIVE play should be based on distances from experience...
It is always better to UNDEREARN than to LOSE
increased RISK MUST BE REASONABLE and CONTROLLED

5) KNOWLEDGE OF THE MATERIAL AND TECHNICAL BASE will not hurt anyone )))))
search think try (without false hopes)

this is what appeared in the halls when 2 superomatic games showed vulnerability (I wrote about one of them somewhere here)
and the players quietly took out 10-20K $$$ ))))

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Re: Losing Caution and LOSS in Casino

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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you need to understand,
that MINUS IN A DAY is not done globally
and through a CHAIN of wrong small decisions

casino games for the most part (if you don't dig your heels in in "vacuum cleaner" situations)
they will pump credit for a long time near the zero mark
but to do this you need to play your deposits correctly
and reach for the fat wins = DISTANCE + SKILL + MONEY STOCK

and the beauty is that you can scale up to any amount of money
and don't push the pedal to the metal from the start
hysterical, how can this be!!! I'm already losing my 20th deposit!!!!! = the mathematics of slot machines doesn't give a shit.... even though it's the 500th
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Re: Losing Caution and LOSS in Casino

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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NLsH said: But if you play with the thought that you need to win back - this is a vicious practice, which with a high degree of probability leads to another drain, and a more serious one at that.



the joke is that all these excuses/put-ins are INVENTED by the gambling addicts themselves )))

you have NON-CRITICAL $100 (given as a gift, found, etc.) you can use it FREELY, for example, you put it in a casino and LOST it

"oh well, next time you'll be lucky" - that'll work in your head and everything will end well (without putty)

=== almost all variants start playing like this

"sports anger" is not considered = this is the lot of the insane, not burdened with intelligence and experience ))))



and now what happens when

a) a REAL problem has arisen in life and you need to get hold of a certain amount of money right here and now, but you only have a part of it available

b) CRITICAL money for the family is taken for the game (monthly salary, household expenses, money that was lying around for buying something, for rent, for school fees, etc.)

c) money is borrowed/stolen for the game

=== and if the credit starts to sink, then the player gets into a situation WANT/DO NOT WANT it is necessary at ANY COST to at least RETURN to YOURS

and all the brakes are removed a)b)c) are looped, heated up by a specific time point

the player tries to reach ANY SOURCE OF MONEY in order to pour it in further in an attempt to get out of a deep drawdown

often flies past the POINT OF NO RETURN, and cannot stop because the thought of the CONSEQUENCES OF FIXING A LOSS at the current stage frightens him

=== PUSSYS who are afraid to record the current loss and voice it to interested parties (associated with the consequences) get into the putty

they slow down when TOTAL FUCK comes and they simply have no other choice.... how to admit although no, depending on the mischief, suicide options may not seem so bad.... to each his own ))))

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"the road to hell is paved with good intentions" no one goes out on purpose to lose money in a casino, on the contrary, a person tried to solve some issue and do good for the family, but in the end, when choosing the wrong SOURCES and lacking EXPERIENCE, he falls into a chain trap of losses when with each subsequent dive the bar of the DESIRED RESULT becomes higher and flies into space )))

"miracles happen" is the main motto of those who go into the depths of the Mariana Trench....and are forced to gradually switch to maxbets

Discussion started by Shpilevoy , on 01 June 03:25
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Avax, 26.03.2018 21:14
Avax
There are a number of biases that we fall into. One of them is the “favorite long shot bias.” In horse racing, if you look at the horses that are at the back of the pack, they have a better chance than their performance suggests they should. In other words, people overestimate the chances of long wins. This feature also appears in other sports and even in how we predict the weather or major political events. People tend to focus on things that surprise and overestimate the chances of unlikely events.

Another is known as the Monte Carlo fallacy. It occurs in roulette, where when the same color comes up a few times, people tend to start putting their money on another color. They think that if black comes up a lot, then red must be coming. Of course, this is not true, because the outcome is still completely random, but there is this psychological attachment that pulls us in one direction.

The third psychological quirk that pops up a lot in gaming is what is known as gambler's ruin. This is the tendency that when people win at a game, they increase the amount of money they are risking. But often, when people lose, they do not decrease the amount they are risking. Mathematically, this will always lead to bankruptcy. This is why bankroll management is incredibly important because you need to resist this temptation and adjust the amount you are risking depending on where you are in the game.
Snezhanna, 06/04/2017 17:33
Snezhanna
"miracles happen" with roulette that's for sure
Snezhanna, 06/04/2017 17:33
Snezhanna
"miracles happen" with roulette that's for sure
FoxDuhovny, 01.06.2017 17:49
FoxSpiritual
Miracles - roulette collisions, left unattended by the player during the game session!!! Which happens quite often, especially when the adaptive "squeezes" the player, having previously calculated that the player is not able to rebet the maxbet on the same number... guess what happens to such a player?
Mira, 01.06.2017 17:33
Mira
If you calmly consider several lost sessions in a row, you can say "I'm screwed". And there are no fears here, but simply a statement of fact.
If you bet on red in a casino and you're stubbornly unlucky, try betting on red!

Re: Losing Caution and LOSS in Casino

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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Boris Ruban 5 minutes ago (edited)

but a good friend came up (he either lost or dropped in without any money) and wanted to be there, to watch (a lot of people already like to watch my game)

......and I lost everything

I must say that this is not the first time that thanks to him I have made big WINNINGS...

but it's one thing when we play in parallel on the same roulette = I place concentrated centers, and he sprinkles the entire field with kopecks = it's clear that the adaptive one starts throwing him meager winnings, and shaves off my bets

but now!?!?

he just sat next to me and named out batches of numbers and options (even though no one asked him)

More and more often we heard "well why didn't you put it in, I told you so!", "did you mind throwing a couple of chips into my numbers?", etc.

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The loss made me feel better...

when I got home I started thinking IS HE REALLY THAT UNLUCKY???

this is MYSTICISM, and this does not suit me as an explanation......

analyzed the situation and UNDERSTOOD

more details

www.100pravda.com/forum/gamers-gold-rule...da-mnogo-sovetchikov

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Sumiala, 02.10.2017 00:03
Sumiala
10 points
FoxDuhovny, 09.29.2017 19:52
FoxSpiritual
We will soon learn the causes, and the consequences, and the connections... and life, and tears, and love...
Mira, 09/29/2017 19:42
Mira
Mysticism is when we don’t know all the cause and effect relationships!
I wrote everything correctly.
If you bet on red in a casino and you're stubbornly unlucky, try betting on red!

Re: Losing Caution and LOSS in Casino

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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I played in an earthly casino at night

took $2600, split into two parts 1300+1300

the first part was played almost "on the hook" = played powerfully and concentratedly, lost in half an hour

I played the second part carefully and blew it in 1.5 hours

brought another $1500 played powerfully, but almost everything was missed

$100 left (and I'm at the roulette myself, everyone was killed)

from these 100 times 4 reached 1500, but no further = as soon as you increase a little, the game goes away

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then a crowd of Izers arrived with a balance of about $800, 8 people and a couple of their wives = they swarmed the steering wheel... the mood disappeared, because they were pouring out money in their own way...

in total it cost me $100

and with these 100, in chips of 1, for a spin of 5-10$ I "played" for 2 hours

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then there was another episode in the middle

some asshole started a riot, shouting "I'll burn you all here", "I lost my money", etc., knocked down the door to the cash register, got into a fight with a security guard

called in paramilitary security

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What I mean is that you need to pay attention to SIGNS

the universe is sending you thick hints that the game needs to be put on hold

and you don't hear... or rather, you don't want to hear...

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result -$4100 for a couple of cups of coffee

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