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Answers to questions from the owners of JoyCasino and Casino-X ttr Here are the long-awaited answers to the questions, I sent just a link to the topic with the questions and they themselves chose interesting answers and sent this document with the answers, so the answers themselves: Hello everyone. Yes, we like the style of this forum, as an attempt to create an independent opinion about the casino with a good share of emotions and excitement. We follow almost all publications and ludovodi, for us this is a good source of opinions about ourselves, and, in general, about online casinos, an opportunity to understand what interests players. Naturally, we periodically read other forums, but almost all of them are very different, on this one for the first time they finally began to talk about the fact that the casino does not affect the return of the gaming software, which gives hope for the correct assessment of other components of the casino. In general, this is why we suggested that the forum admin do such an interview to tell his version of the truth, we hope you will find it interesting. The interview is in a question-answer format, I will try to answer fully in order to avoid additional questions in advance. Please note that we will of course read your comments later, but we will hardly be able to answer them, we are answering what we managed to ask. Do they like the style of presentation on TTRCasino? Is it when every word is swearing, including from you? Ask there, do the owners of Joy like it when someone runs a dick over their lips? - it is important that the forum admin does not forget to make conscious comments under the “rigged” RNG Where did the supposedly licensed software come from? - direct contracts with Microgaming, Playson, NetEnt. I will also say that we did not buy the software, there is no such concept on the licensed market, this is an agreement under which we pay royalties to game manufacturers, the game is played from the servers of the corresponding game provider. The farts also have licenses, in 2 years they will have software like in Star Games, believe me!! — none of the online volcanoes have a license, none of the online volcanoes have any connection with Rizio Entertainment (Oleg Boyko), the owner of the Vulcan brand, none of the volcanoes have licensed Novomatic software, but you know that yourself Owner of Joy, are you Jewish? — no They are 100 percent crests. You can tell by the return that they are 100 percent Maidan-crazed:)))))))))))) Although they are not Maidan-crazed, it becomes clear from their place of birth that “Where there was a crest, there is nothing for a Jew to do” — also no, this will probably disappoint many, but we are not Ukrainians (we were not born in Ukraine, we are not Ukrainians by nationality and it so happened that we are not Ukrainians by citizenship either), although one of the offices is located in Ukraine, for example, there are also offices in Russia, Latvia, Malta. The desire to remain correct in the text of this interview does not allow me to write what I think about Nazis and morons in general. I doubt that they will answer, but it's all just a teaser. How many players are there in Joy and Casino X? What is the revenue? How much do they spend on advertising? - Unfortunately, we cannot answer this or other similar questions, it is a commercial secret. How do they calculate the winnings if they pay 50% to affiliates? - TTR answered everything correctly. What are the development plans? - license plans: we are currently in the process of obtaining a Maltese license, then the English one (UKGC) will be next in line. Market plans: Latin America, Southeast Asia, Japan. Product plans: 1. there is a goal to make guaranteed fast payments. There is a project slottyvegas.com, some time ago they wrote on the site that they make payments no more than 2 hours from the moment of the application, then the information changed to 4 hours, I did not look now, but they took and so declared and signed publicly under the urgency of payments, the point is to bring the process of payments (subject to verification of the player and undetected fraudulent behavior) to a similar standard, this is not a very simple goal, understanding that different payment systems have their own nuances and work differently, but we want to come to this, we hope that this year. 2. release of a new player's personal account, it will have achievements (achievements in different games), finally bonus codes, challenges to slot duels, well, and, probably, the main functionality for players - hold of the amount of the application for payment from the main balance there are also other product improvements, but we cannot voice other plans for the same reason as above - a commercial secret What was the largest withdrawal in history and how much was withdrawn per day - 4 million rubles were withdrawn in 6 days (8 payments of 500,000 rubles for a visa), but we are talking about the fact of payment that the user waited for The maximum bay of a person per session? - a very vague concept of a session, you can assume that one session is one day, the maximum amount of deposits from one player per day is rounded off at 5 million rubles 1. What did you do before opening an online casino (i.e. where did the funds come from to create a casino and an extensive advertising campaign). — were engaged in the development of software for offline poker clubs (banal software for electronic queue at the table, automatic counting of stacks at the table, etc.) 2. What prompted the opening of the above projects: just an investment option, or were they somehow connected with the gambling sphere. — started after the wave of the first online volcanoes, which grew like mushrooms in 2010-2011, wanted to join the market but according to their own scenario with licensed software, to be a counterweight to these not very good projects. And of course, to make money 3. Do they have other online projects, besides JoyCasino and Casino-X. — the Joy and X team does not have other projects yet, previously we owned the maxcasino.com project with Playtech games, which was sold in 2013 4. What development is planned: increasing the level of service, adding slots from other manufacturers, etc. — I have already partially answered this above, regarding new manufacturers: we want greentube, thunderkick, playtech is being offered once again, in general we will add new manufacturers, which ones will become better known after the exhibitions in Amsterdam and Berlin Questions: Are the owners crests? Why haven't I won money in any of their offices in half a year, what about Pokerdom (this is generally a clown show), what about Casino-X, what about Joy Casino, why does everyone spit on the return and 99 percent of players are in the minus neverfold.ru/showthread.php?p=1471371#post1471371 , why are the staff such disgusting mercantile animals, an eternal scam with bonuses, take the bonuses, you don't have time to take this bonus, they offer another one, thereby checking whether you still have funds in your pocket, in your account, for further scamming for money, it's simply unrealistic to win here. Why is the Management so greedy that even for the 10th deposit the balance doesn't even jerks up, like an impotent penis> — no, not Ukrainians, you were unlucky, so you did not win, we cannot jerk up or down, please do not shift the manifestations of your personal complexes to us and our employees 1. Will there be 100% bonuses on the deposit - reloads? - the bonus policy is constantly changing, casino-x already has a 100% bonus for the second deposit, we may add the same or some other one to joy, answering the question - most likely yes 2. When will you make a filter by manufacturers? It is inconvenient to see MG and NetEnt games mixed up. - we did not plan to filter yet, there are only three manufacturers and not as many games as competitors, but later we will most likely make 3. Can we count on additional Rewards for players of the VIP level and above? or will everything remain at the level of "more profitable exchange of comp points" - a more profitable rate on points is only part of the advantages of VIPs, our VIPs have unlimited payments (limited only by the limits of payment systems), no deposits and profitable deposit bonuses, personal managers and so on. When I played Joy, then constantly, if there is money left for 3 spins, then a window with a deposit offer starts to pop up, right in the middle. You constantly have to close it. And also when you exit the slot, the same window pops up, with an offer to play other slots, it also interferes. I myself know what I want to play, and these windows only take time to close them and are annoying. Is there an option to remove these windows down, like in video slots? — here it is necessary to understand that we are a commercial project and work to make money (I think this is not news), if we remove this pop-up and do not lose in conversion, we will gladly refuse it, if we lose it, then no Why does Joy have few providers — there will be more, answered above We are going to success together =) Soon they will offer to open a TTR casino =))) And on the topic, a question, what kind of payments in the queue are these? Is it really that while there is not enough money in the casino cash desk, they do not pay out and vice versa? — there are thousands of applications in the casino every day, clicking the “pay” button in itself is naturally fast, but with each payment there is a check of the player, first of all, his game log, the use of bonuses and other promotions, and so on, as I already wrote above, we are moving to the level when we will have much faster payments How many people work on each project? — 120 people are currently working on Casino-X and Joycasino together (including developers, designers, support, marketing, etc.) What is the most popular slot? On which slot were the biggest wins, namely the multiplication to the bet, and not the amount? - the "popular" page - first place is the most popular slot, the biggest multiplication is 4 million rubles from a bet of 1p80kop in the jackpot batman 1. Cancellation of payments even on the specified days under various far-fetched pretexts, is this normal? - it was as if you specifically asked the question so that we would not answer it, without presenting in advance the facts of cancellations under various far-fetched pretexts 2. Money that remains on the balance, which is not done in other casinos, is this fair? - this is fair and not prohibited by the license requirement, however, we will soon introduce the functionality for holding the amounts of applications for payments 3. Requirements to unscrew x3 not only the last deposit, but also all previous ones, is this nonsense of the support or the policy of the owners? — this is a policy against bonus hunters, which I can assume you are, again, I can’t say anything without presented facts Will they get a normal license, and not Curacao? — yes, although Curacao is also a serious license, to a large extent its significance is discredited by photoshop fakes from volcanoes Will there be an adequate bonus system, and not gifts that seem to be thrown around your neck?) — I didn’t quite understand the question, but I want to say that the bonus system will naturally improve 1. Does Joy Casino have anything to do with the PokerDom room — yes, PokerDom operates under the same license, but completely different teams work on the projects, because the specifics are very different 2. If so, why are you developing poker now when poker is already “dead”. What is the point of this event, or is it just a PR strategy for the casino through poker development? Why attract professional players to the team if you are aiming to attract fish, why not attract famous personalities from show business to the team, as PokerStars does now, because the strategy of attracting professional players is unprofitable at a distance and attracts regulars - I can't answer this question, this is a question for the management of the poker house, I honestly say - I don't understand poker 3. What projects were there before the creation of Joy Casino and Casino X? - I answered above about offline, plus we were engaged in the development of games for social networks and mobile phones 4. At what age did you earn your first million $? — everyone has their own, from 25 to 28 5. Will the disadvantages of JoyCasino be fixed, namely * When cashing out, money will be withdrawn from the account — yes * The withdrawal will be processed within a maximum of 24 hours without unjustified cancellations — if there are justified cancellations/delays, then the withdrawal is unpredictable, if there are no grounds for delays, then, as I wrote above, we want to come to very fast payments * Will there be bonuses without a deposit? — there are and will be, this week they gave out no deposit bonuses on x, but I can’t say yet how often this will be, if this practice brings us a plus in the long run, then naturally there will be, we are not our own enemies * Will a temporary account blocking from the game be introduced, that is, money can be withdrawn, but it will not be possible to play with them. For example, I won a large amount and I’m afraid to lose it, including blocking funds until withdrawal and that’s it. — yes, as soon as we get a Maltese license * there will be no withdrawal limits for VIP players or they will be higher — they are still absent (except for the limits of the payment systems themselves) for the upper VIP segment 5. What is the biggest win in Joy Casino and Casino-X. For each casino separately. What is the biggest loss. — depends on what is considered a win — a positive delta per day or a win from one spin, if we are talking about a win from one spin, then from memory these are several wins above 3 million rubles (at Casino X, as I wrote above, the top win from a spin was 4,098,000 rubles) 6. Where is the return higher in Microgaming or in NetEnt, in which software do people lose or win more? — almost the same MG to NE as 47% to 53%, hardcore VIP players, naturally play more in Microgaming, they are not very interested in beautiful graphics, etc., they are interested in highly volatile games 7. What is the average number of active players FOR REAL money during the day. — as above, a commercial secret 8. What is the largest deposit and the largest loss from one player. — I think a one-time deposit is not indicative, and the total for the day I answered above — rounded up 5 million rubles, this is the amount of deposits made by the player and then completely lost 9. What is the growth rate of the casino over the past six months? — about 30-40% 10. Would you like to sign a contract with me — blog branding + entries of ludovods in Joy / casinoX. Details can be discussed individually. Here's an example - you pay a certain amount per month, from which I spend part of the agreed money on ludovods in the casino, there are minimum requirements for the number of ludovods per month in your casino, etc. - we want to, but I suggest discussing the conditions not here but by mail / Skype, otherwise it will be somehow slow through the forum (Comment from TTR: Oh, fucking awesome guys, there will be something to lose xD) About a year ago I registered in Casino-X, made a deposit and lost .. a week later the account was blocked, as a clone. Although there was only one account .. now I have already forgotten the password and email, how can I restore it? If I register, will there not be a similar situation ?? JoyCasino I registered and lost more than 100k without a single withdrawal, if these casinos are partners, can I register under a nickname like in Joy ??? — for such questions it is easiest for you to write to technical support, everything that you will be answered there you can naturally freely post on the forum for discussion, but without knowing the facts and from your words: we can register one account in each casino, all other accounts will either be disconnected from bonuses or blocked The return in the casino is quite good! But the paperwork and long withdrawals are brutal! — I will explain quite simply, payment systems are divided into risky and risk-free, risky ones include Visa MasterCard Skrill Neteller, non-risky ones include all the rest, for example, Qiwi WebMoney Yandex, etc., if a player orders a payout from a casino and before that he had deposits through risky PS - we will definitely request documents (ID: passport / driver's license, etc. plus a photo / screenshot of the payment method), if the player has passed verification and then six months later made a deposit through a new card - we will again request documents, naturally not all, but a photo of the new card. Naturally, we reserve the right to check documents in some other cases when we have suspicions of unfair play or bonus abuse. This never concerns honest players who play by the rules. www.forum.betsegoist.com/forum/33-chernyi-spisok-onlain-kazino/ They did the right thing here by blacklisting this Casino. Let the Khokhols comment. Owners, or are we waiting for deposits to support the ATO? Greetings to Kolomoisky, and they make fools of us, killing people with our money. — well, I'll explain it again here, although everything has already been explained on GPWA, the forum admins contributed to the denigration of the projects' reputation, using deliberately false arguments (well, the simplest is to tweak the RNG, which is nonsense), I'll emphasize that this was not written by the players, they can be forgiven for this, but by the forum admins themselves, who probably should understand something about the casino topic, going back to the beginning — that's why we like the ttrkazino forum, there is a normal admin here (Comment from TTR: I don't know why they call my blog a forum, and so betegoist is a piece of crap) why are there few jackpot slots in Joy? — each separate jackpot game from NetEnt is under a separate contract, we plan to sign it this year 1) Will TTR's affiliate program be closed if it and its site users start throwing shit at Joycasino and CasinoX, like it did with forum.betsegoist.com? — if we are going to be accused of something we are not guilty of and cannot even be guilty of — then yes, but if they are simply going to express negativity on the merits, then why on earth? 2) What % of your players are NOT from the CIS? Write the TOP 5 countries who play with you besides the CIS countries. — in total, non-CIS players currently make up 50%, the top being Sweden, Finland, Germany, Norway, and Poland, Romania, and Greece are also at the bottom 3) How much did it cost to launch Joycasino? — naturally, this is a commercial secret, but it is about 100 times cheaper to launch a second casino after launching the first, since they are on the same platform I would like to ask about NetEnT software, does it have adaptive mathematics or is it random? What can you say about the software of Russian casinos like Vulcan with unlicensed software, what algorithms do they use? — We were really waiting for this question, in short, among licensed software (having licenses not from casinos but from game manufacturers in Malta, Great Britain, Kahnawake, etc.) there can be no software that can provide adaptive or as we call it “stock” mathematics. There is still such a game manufacturer Igrosoft, which, unlike Novomatic, has implemented the so-called “stock” mathematics. What does this mean? This means that the game on the game server has a setting — a set theoretical percentage of return, while the symbols on the reels do not have a specific sequence, unlike ribbon/random games (when a certain sequence of symbols is “stretched” onto each reel, there can be from 20 to 60 symbols on different reels, each manufacturer distorts it as he wants, and it never changes, like a coin with an eagle on one side and a tail on the other, or the numbers on a cube are pre-applied and unchangeable). In stock mathematics, there is a mixture of RNG and forced approximation of the practical RTP (return to player%) to the theoretical one. That is, small wins within the theoretical return are random, but as soon as the game deviates significantly from the specified return, it begins to give non-random results. This is the same famous effect when a lot of money was poured into the machine and then it must give back, or vice versa, it gave a lot - it means there will be no winnings in the near future. I repeat, such mathematics is used in Igrosoft, and is also often used in various slot applications in social networks. In contrast to this kind of logic and mathematics, there is random logic, in which the possibility of any outcome in any given round is equally probable. Let's go back to the coin - the coin has no memory and even after it falls on the eagle 100 times in a row, the probability of the eagle falling out for the 101st time remains 50%. The principle is that in order to obtain a casino license, the casino itself must have a contract with a game developer licensed in the same or another recognized jurisdiction (more often, it is required that the games be licensed in the same jurisdiction, the exceptions are Curacao, Great Britain, Italy and perhaps soon Spain, well, and a number of other countries). That is, a license exists not only for a casino, do not forget that first of all a license exists for a game developer. Then just go and read the requirements for game servers (software and hardware) on the official websites of any recognized jurisdiction and you will understand that stock mathematics cannot exist by law. If you see original licensed software in front of you, then: - save time and energy - a new account has no advantages over the old one, do as much as you want, but the RNG does not care at all, it is like a coin that has no memory (but not because it is so stupid and simple, but because that is how it is by law). — the probability of winning with a low bet is absolutely the same as the probability of winning with a high bet, the maximum multiplication can fall out either way, with a high bet only the absolute value of the bet and the win is greater, and the multiplication is the same. — the casino cannot influence the results of the rounds, for two reasons, firstly because the game is played on the manufacturer's game server, secondly, the manufacturer also cannot influence the RNG. This is all quite easy and understandable for European players, there is not a single large forum with comments about the rigged RNG, but because of the proliferating volcanoes with self-written unlicensed copies of famous manufacturers on the CIS forums, nothing else is discussed. The only topics for discussion on forums in Europe are the speed of payments, bonus policy and minor things like design, tournaments and races, and so on. About the Volcanoes. In Igrosoft games - 100% stock mathematics, in Novomatic copies - RNG plus some most likely have a cutoff for the maximum win per spin, well, what can't you write when you are both a game manufacturer and a casino site. I am 99% sure that none of the volcanoes have special algorithms "give on the first deposit and eat after the second", instead, they just collected tapes with a return of about 85% (as opposed to 96-98% in licensed games), and that's it.

Would you like to sign a contract with me — blog branding + posts by ludovods in Joy/casinoX. Details can be discussed individually. Here's an example — you pay a certain amount per month, from which I spend part of the agreed money on ludovods in the casino, there are minimum requirements for the number of ludovods per month in your casino, etc. — we want to, but I suggest discussing the conditions not here but in mail/Skype, otherwise it will be somehow slow through the forum (Comment from TTR: Oh, awesome guys, there will be something to lose money on xD) Now is it clear how TTR shoots its ludovods? = WITH CASINO MONEY

In fact, no one knows their kitchen: 1) each casino is calculated separately 2) there is a general reserve of the system (for progressive jackpots and mutual insurance) 3) there is a profit rate % of turnover and a collection plan 4) there is an approximate RTP of each slot, and its dispersion character there are another 1000 points tied into the mathematical model + 100% player psychology is taken into account + a team works. the purpose of which is to beautifully pull money out of players

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TTR @TTR there is a theory of the cyclicality of each slot, the collection cycle - the return cycle, depending on the dispersion - it can be very short or very long, these are the same small and high dispersion slots @

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What does cyclicality have to do with it? When you enter to play in the 10-20 move zone of HIGH RISK, the casino encourages this and often adjusts bonuses and expensive lines. An example on the fingers. The total bet is $1 per spin! If you deposit $30 - you will see both the bonus and expensive lines = there will be a Game. If you deposit $1000 and spin them - there will be a vacuum cleaner until the casino eats up the "extra stock". 100% verified. TTR himself understands from experience that there is no point in spinning a million spins for 1 cent The Dispa clearly swings in the HIGH-RISK PERIOD, and the surplus is gobbled up without options.

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The main thing in ANY slots is not to get into a situation where the casino lags in terms of collecting the profit rate. As was correctly said, someone snatched a piece and fled to other steppes. The mathematical model will replenish according to the schedule. That's all the cyclicality.

I have been keeping a calendar of 5 "lucky days" casinos for 3 years. The game scheme and deposits are always the same. The trend is clear = all decent wins in all casinos are the last days of the month or the very first days of the month. I do not believe that the "rng" is synchronized with the Gregorian calendar But in financial plans and management, implemented in the mathematical model, this is quite modern. P. S. Decent for me is a deposit of $ 50, withdrawal of 500+

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The advantage of a large platform is the ghostly probability of grabbing a large progressive jackpot. Otherwise, there is no difference. You need to play where there is an interesting Game and big wins more often for you, and not for some ludovodchikov, 99% of whom shoot videos with casino money. The scheme is roughly as follows: The casino immediately pays a certain amount per month, from which the videographer spends the agreed part of the money on ludovods in this casino + the minimum number of ludovods per month is agreed upon. P.S. I will not write about the fact that there should be a quick withdrawal and adequate support, because it goes without saying

Playtech has lost ground to its competitors in the last couple of years, especially in the online gambling market in the CIS countries - many establishments on this platform have simply stopped accepting players from there, and those that still accept have significantly limited access to games in their casino client program: for example, you go to the King casino client from a Russian IP and many slots and live dealers simply do not load completely when you try to open them, after which you go to technical support and they stupidly tell you that you have problems with your PC, update your flash player (when you already have the latest version) everything is fine with them, but you go from another IP address, say the Netherlands.... and oh miracle! everything works, jackpot games start, live dealers start, everything works fine... it seems that these casino groups are specifically squeezed by the movement of some bonus hunters who are simply tearing them apart, what if they flee en masse from this market segment