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Is there a relationship between deposit and result?

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Is there a relationship between deposit and result?

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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Andrey Andreev You can develop in a casino if you withdraw any plus! For example, in the official I always withdraw any plus that a slot or device gave! You just need to deposit in a bunch of different casinos and not justify everything in one, and so it doesn't matter even 20 deposits - if it eats, it will eat Vam_casper Regarding this, I am more than sure that the more money on the balance, the more likely it is that at rates of $ 2 it will give x500 and in general it will give better than if there is little money in the cash register. These are purely my observations for "my entire career" and do not claim to be the truth. Here it turns out that the casino has a struggle between it and the player and the bet is a known number, this is the player's bankroll. The casino must first competently feed the player, give well, encourage him to raise the bet, give again and then cover up and take everything to zero. There is a very high probability that if the player has money, he will take a credit card, deposit at least 1/2 of what he had and start playing again at a high rate, which is what the casino needs. Why do I think so, because the player who deposits $ 100 and the casino gives him $ 1000, then in most cases the player will make a cashout and it is not a fact that he will return everything back to this casino TTL It seems to me that the game depends on the bankroll, because as soon as you start playing not according to the bankroll, the game immediately changes from a friendly form to an aggressive and draining one. For example, the same guy deposited 500 bucks at the same time in the first case, and 50 in the second, if they played 5 bucks per spin, there would be a completely different game, because in the first case he played according to the bankroll, and in the second he did not Evgeny Kuklachev If the mathematics is not adaptive, but a probabilistic tape, then nothing depends on deposits, or on a session, or on whether the account is fresh or not. It only depends on the percentage of return, how much went into it and came out. Well, luck!!! Nothing strange, the higher the bet, the higher the chance, at least in the original machines. Otherwise, how to stimulate the player to raise the bet? What's wrong? I have dealt with firmware and source code of slot machines, I know exactly how they work. I did not write that the higher the bet, the greater the win and earnings. And the chance is higher if you play at a bet of 1 or a bet of 10 or a bet of 100 in probabilistic mathematics, the higher the bet, the fewer the number of checks and the higher the chance of catching a combination, and at a small bet the condition simply will not miss it. Mavericks when you jump on bets + on slots. the game is livelier This is the only thing that really works. But often it's a dumb mess plus or minus without a strong return. That is, the casino just lets you play, nothing more. I'm most interested in another thing. All my wins from x500+ were almost always after a certain action. I play for a very long time in different slots on BRM, so to speak, the bet from the bank for 200-300 spins minimum. But the clock goes by, and the money is at the same level, or as often happens, I almost double the deposit at least, but then it drops to the beginning without a chance. Sooner or later I tilt, I get tired of all this and go to my favorite slot and twist the bet for 50-100 spins, either it will give or not. And OH MIRACLE, just at this moment the treasured x500+ often came
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Re: Life of a slot player - need takeouts but there are none

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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From the diary of dimanzhiv26 :S the funniest thing is that I was hammering joystick, got banned, deposited 100 euros in quasar-easy in half an hour 1200 euros) although I was hammering joystick for weeks without outs. Each casino spins the software in its own way and sets it up that way. I don't know how to explain it, but when you play for weeks without leaving for 15 hours a day, it's visible to the naked eye. Namely: how it maintains balance, the effectiveness of bonus games, etc. that's it, I've gotten carried away somehow... I make a deposit in redstar 20k plus. Let's see what randomness looks like. ... deposit 320 bucks, I think, let me try in princess, in a new game. 50 USD remains on the balance, cunt, fuck. Redstar is completely freaked out? I went to space, of course, for 40 cents they smashed crystals x400. Fuck, for 12 USD or 6 bucks - not at all. Well, so normal, then I fuck in immortal. bonuses, drops, etc. on the balance 650 USD. It seems to play. ... there were 800 USD, it became fucked. fucking rigged in one word. Fuck, at least once he gave at a normal rate - not once. Fuck, it pisses me off. Fucking immortal romance. You can spin 300 spins and without a single line. random, what the hell. ... they gave me a 100 USD bonus, now we'll fuck you for 10 USD per spin. Later I'll deposit a normal amount if I don't go to bed. The question is, why the fuck didn't I withdraw it in the morning? ... I deposit my last cash, 30K, and fuck it, as usual. I spin SpaceSuha for 2 hours - zero. Bets are 2-4 USD, I bet 80 cents, of course, crystals x250. Normal. I made back the morning session, I'm even in the plus for today, 100 USD. ... I'll be spinning in an hour. I need some winnings. ... of course, as I lowered the rate.... ok, whatever ... how fucking sick I am of eating. fucking autist. fuck, they put a mark not to pay a grand and fuck. bastards. ... 250 USD left. it feels like they're fucking me in the ass. gentlemen, don't play Redstar if you don't have a lot of money to get out of it. It can really eat thousands without outs. fuck, withdraw the rest and fuck off. I'm sick of it. ... in short, I've lost all my money. I'm sick of the swings, I've come back a couple of times from 50 USD to 600-100 to zeoeni, but I'm an idiot. I should have withdrawn, sent the casino to hell. That's it, fuck this rigged. I've seen enough of this shit. I caught three drops, heaps of bonuses - nothing plays, once every 2 hours the line fucks up to x300 and that's it, fuck. ... Okay guys, that's it, I'm here. I'm not playing anymore. And there's no point in deposits of 20-30k. If you play, you need to have 200 thousand rubles in reserve. By the way, over the last three days I haven't withdrawn a total of 3 symbols in the amount of almost 200k. Lol of course. I'm fucking with this casino. Bye everyone. ... why mislead people? they don't give away slots, but software. some other idiots come in and start telling how fucking negative it is to play in a casino, like you lose 5 percent on every bet, etc. go fuck yourself, smartasses. when I went offline and won from 500 rubles to 30 thousand, your negative bullshit didn't work for some reason. I just don't want to play and that's it. ... idk, easy 4 drops 3 times a week, in total it turned out to be somewhere x5000. 3 drops only yesterday gave three times. x300. you can guess, but maybe some games go according to the general software system BETWEEN ALL CASINOS, and some are just stupidly played inside one casino to fill the content. each normal casino has hundreds of slots, and people play a maximum of 20-30 of them. just think about it, how can the machines give if no one plays them? another pattern. the same game. in different casinos it behaves differently. I spent all night hammering space wars or immortal. bonus once an hour, went to another, in 10 minutes it was easy, etc. ... I used to play in the official Sleazing Hot, like there are 5 sevens, etc. The max line multiplied by x1000. Damn, I caught it so many times, it even reached the point of insanity. And the stakes were normal, 50-75 rubles. I remember a chick (casino employee) comes up and asks, have you ever caught sevens, I was just banging in them, I say yes. A minute later, bang. Top line, 50k in the pocket. I remember I hit 500 rubles on tilt, top polyana, 70 grand came in from a deposit of 500 rubles. I went online. Vulkan. The same game - all sevens fell out, withdrew. Then Quasar, caught 4 sevens, but a normal stake. There are more than a grand in green on the account, then a few more times four. there are just some machines that are so cool. I don't even know how to explain it. you play them hoping that someday you'll hit it big.. what's the point of playing new slots where the max multiplier is x200? ... the question is, why the hell did I get blocked in Redstar for 3 months? I want to play, and I seem to have money, but I don't want to deposit in other dubious casinos. I also have a phobia - I've never withdrawn from where - it's a shame to put a lot of money there. okay, in any case, every self-respecting player should visit at least three different establishments, to reduce the dispersion and other crap. in a week - I'll try my hand at video slots. I think I had an account in GATSE, I deposited there a couple of times, and I think I got blocked, x3, I don't remember. in fact, whoever plays will understand, in putty you are fucking, your nerves are on edge, you drain everything, you catch shortfalls, then disappointment sets in, complete indifference, I don't care about the money, I want to sleep, an adrenaline bath-hangover, and in this state of affect you close access to games, that is, in an insane state ... I've been playing online for three years. Poker can be added to this. I probably left a couple of million. In offline - I put in more, but that's in the past. This year, by the way, I probably won back to zero. In the spring, I poured 350k into Joy, in the summer more than 200k into RedStar, but then I more than got it back the whole year, I used to play RedBet and Titan Casino, also several hundred rubles in the minus. ... I've already lost five other people's salaries, the last time I spent 200k of someone else's, but I earned it easily and got it back quickly and without any problems. I stopped playing with someone else's money. I'm not such a moron as to ruin my life completely. And so - no problem, I could easily spend about 200 thousand euros of someone else's money, which I had at work for almost half a year. About which they then simply asked me to write down by hand where it was spent. Yes, I always have someone else's money on hand, at least a couple of million a month. ... well, today I opened an account in Videoslots. Refund 50 euros. Redstars were offended, either for my French, or maybe because I'm a plus reg, they banned me forever. Normal. I'll test new casinos. If possible, throw in a couple of top ones, where they don't screw around with your brains. ... if I'm not mistaken, you set the blocking yourself and it hasn't expired yet. (RedStar) I set it for 3 months, and the support said, like, I'm rude, etc. and for life.
the thing is, every player is nervous and often breaks down to suck everyone in a row - this is normal. I went to one official hall for several years, lost a shit ton of money there, plus the staff was annoying with their impudence. One fine evening I came with a gun and showed off, in short, they don't let me in anymore) the fact that I swear - this still doesn't mean anything. If I play in a casino, then this already means that I don't consider the establishment a scam. Who will catch me gambling in scams? If this happened, it quickly stopped. Before making a deposit, I reread a lot of information. Roughly speaking, I play in trusted establishments. especially since I've been playing Redstar for over half a year, my account is a couple of years old for sure. Banned for swearing? Who the hell knows, he could have written nothing at all, but it's not interesting. TTR on Ludovode trashes many casinos and nothing, he plays, doesn't care. ... the last time I played playtech in titan casino. it gave normally, I brought a tour top 1-200 USD, I got 2500 bucks from them, I played gladiator and great blue there, it gave me a bonus, all that stuff. and now in argo - not a single bonus in these shitty whales. of course 25 thousand is a trifle and not an indicator for the return, but the very fact that many casinos usually poured in on the first deposits, and more than a grand in green, speaks about some things. and the game itself in playtech - does not keep the balance at all. stupidly to zero, maximum x20, bonus in gladiator - opened all the icons twice - and gave 0. ... this is typical whoredom. you make deposits, merge, on the fifth deposit you are given 80 percent of the poured. the same exact crap was with joy casino. and after titan casino there were bad memories of playtech. this is shitty software, netent is more interesting, not such a robber, microgaming is a prostitute, but you can play. now there will be a rule for yourself - play only in netent, the rest are nah! well, of course, top games - immortal romance, 300 shields, etc. in the playlist. well, I scored my 40k back in argo and so what? it stupidly ate everything, giving one bonus. fuck you. now I'll spin the last thousand and ask to delete the account. the only plus is bonuses for the first deposits and that's it. in general, Russian casinos are a reason to think about honesty. just for example - recently a new account in videoslots-easy poured more than 1 k in green. deposit a couple of hundred, plus a bonus. the same thing - quasar, redstar, betsafe, etc. that's it, tired of tinkering. break until spring. ... now I've made up my mind. Redstar and Videoslots. I closed my account in Argo, by the way, the service is normal there. I've already banned my accounts everywhere. For fun, I'll play the whole of 2016 in these two establishments, then we'll see what's what. Accordingly, I'll play 5 specific games. Unless of course I quit playing, I'm really tired of it. ... The casino practices different methods of taking money from ludicrous people. I stole it from Tyr's blog, I'll post the copy-paste below. So I like it when everything happens exactly like this, when the ludicrous person gets screwed, through his own fault, and not because the slots don't give anything at all. My last games basically followed this scenario. I probably haven't withdrawn more than half a million in a short period of time. Moreover, the casino or software sees that you're getting dirty and gives you some, pours it in. I don't argue, maybe if you, the bastard, miraculously made a withdrawal, then they'll cover your varnish. In general, let's read.
In short, not a big story about a video slot. This is one fucking casino where I can’t withdraw money in any way, this is something with something, it’s not even funny anymore. In short, I’ve been playing there since the summer, I lost my first deposit of 300 bucks, deposited another hundred and raised 6000$, well, of course, I lost everything while the documents were being checked, I didn’t go there for about two months.. then I started depositing from Qiwi, small change from work always remains on Qiwi (20-50$), I almost always raise 500-2000$ from these mini deposits, I don’t know what’s happening to me, it’s so fucking enticing, drops and the like in all the slots, there are bonuses in all the slots, Playboy gives the most expensive combinations in the bonus with Amber... I play for 1.2-3$, I don’t go higher, it pours out, well, fuck, I myself in shock why is this so.. I think well now I'll play a little while longer while it's giving, I go to the personal account and fuck everything I'm fucking losing. I'm fucking specifically depositing $50, setting a goal of $500 and for withdrawal and nothing started pouring in, I can't stop it, I stop counting these numbers for money, on Monday I got $13 cashback, I also spun up to $690 from $13, well, withdraw, asshole) no, my brain was turned off by lures with drops and other bullshit, I went to the personal account and lost everything again, in short maybe it's pouring in there that I'm the only one who can't withdraw anything, I don't know, in short, the video slot disgusts me already, not a single casino covers up like that... it's better to play in 2-3 regular casinos, but there is one BUT. if it doesn't give you anything, just don't play for a while, take a break in one. you need to have a normal bankroll to play x2000 of the bet. And you should deposit a normal amount at once, rather than in pieces. Believe me, it will be cheaper and there is a better chance of not getting screwed. I don't think it's worth writing about self-control and the absence of tilt. All this is from my experience in the game, it really increases your chances of winning something. And running around with small deposits in different offices is some kind of idiocy. Firstly, they withdraw differently everywhere, plus while you "warm up the machines" you will spend God knows how much. Yesterday I screwed up 40 thousand, this is generally bullshit bankroll, at stakes 1-1.5 USD. ... A couple of hundred euros were poured into video slots. Plus 100 euros gave and that's it. ... Totally easy.
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Re: FIRST DEPOSIT

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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/DimanZhiv/ I do not pretend to be the truth, perhaps in most situations the brain's biased attitude towards losing is to blame. And yet I will give some patterns that many have noted. Bonus on the first deposit! There are many worthy offices, no one has canceled the competition, and the welcome bonus is an ideal option to interest a new player in creating an account at the casino, or maybe even smear a large amount, in any case, you can then spam all sorts of bullshit by mail, keep it under control. A popular promotion to attract new suckers, as well as cunning abusers trying to get a bonus several times by creating a new account. A wager is imposed on the deposit - make a certain number of bets, on average x40. There is a myth that the casino pours on the first deposit. As world practice shows, as well as the experience of some successful abusers - complete bullshit! NetEnt and Microgaming definitely do not work according to this scheme, but with NOVOMATIC it is interesting. All my first deposits of several hundred dollars always poured more than $1k, and a birthday gift from QUASAR casino for $100 generally brought almost $2k in green, such a feeling from the game, you know, like fishing on a bare hook, pulling out fish one after another, and even put a piece of shit on it... Despite the fact that everyone knows that this provider is far from the most loyal in terms of returns. The bonus in Novomatic can be canceled without playing the entire wager, losing only the amount of the bonus issued, and everything on top is yours. Just in case, check, but it used to be like that. The first deposit in poker - the same Novomatic in profile, rushes like a genius of mathematics. Hundreds of cases when from 20-ki made 500 or more bucks. Then it cuts off and such a fuck and hell comes that you want to smash the laptop against the wall, or better yet, against the head of the room owner. Calm ones like me smash the mouse against the refrigerator and block the account for the tenth time. In poker and Novomatic, the first deposit can be considered the first three). I want to note that almost all normal casinos rarely give more than $ 200 for a deposit, and scams can offer up to several thousand, you won’t raise it anyway. Few people win back the bonus on the first deposit, I remember they gave me 5k green, I scrolled spins for more than $ 150,000. The funniest thing is in an evening! My opinion is that it’s worth taking a bonus if you don’t have much money and want to play just for fun or for small change, otherwise the money is wasted. Always play with your own money and no one will bother you with document checks, etc. Such bonuses do more harm and impose certain circumstances and requirements on you, which means they force you to play, there is little chance of laundering. They also give out free spins, as much as 50-100 pieces, but at a very small rate, let’s say 20 rubles. Here the idea is to blur the eye with quantity, to take on greed. Plus many online casinos practice tricky rules that are easy to break to take away your played funds: do not play these games, do not exceed the allowed bet, some slots launder from 20% to 80% of one bet, you are even prohibited from any strategies and tactics with a sharp increase or decrease in bets. In normal casinos there is no such bullshit, everything is transparent and without restrictions, except for the size of the spin, it is usually no more than 5 USD. A lucky account or a new one. As they say - a new broom sweeps in a new way. There is a belief that a new account is on the return. For some, a reason to go to a new casino. From the same opera as the first deposit. Yes, it does not give anything, unless it is cursed. But a new casino can play quite well. Not even so, if there is a terrible freeze, we dump to another establishment. Here is my opinion from a year ago: By the way, all casinos have this feature. Since you started playing there regularly, they won't give you anything. Only beginners benefit. I'm not talking about those who deposit 300 rubles and a total of 5-10k. Until you pour in 50-100 thousand, you won't win anything. You can play for a maximum of a week in a casino with a new account and that's it. The alternative is to not play in one place for a long time, then they'll pour in. At the moment, I don't want to refute or confirm the theory, but it's fucking funny, you sit in one casino for 2 hours and they fuck you in all the games (gaps), go to another, choose the same games - and they pour in! Fucking paradox! What is this? A money pool? As a result, I almost never took the welcome bonus and didn't lose anything. But some people got dirty with free spins and stole their salaries.
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Re: Is there a relationship between deposit and result?

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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Firstly, there is always a budget and the player can really win a lot of money even in a new casino. Where does this budget come from, if my memory serves me right, in the same Microgaming, to open a casino you have to put $100k - $200k in a "savings account", not counting the costs of everything else. This account is used so that if a player wins big or several players, they will still be paid their winnings, but the casino will naturally close after that, since it is bankrupt. If we talk about progressive jackpots, then such slots are connected separately and the network rent from them is much higher than from regular slots. Therefore, the casino should not have problems with paying out such jackpots. Adaptive mathematics with random elements works in slots, so it can really pour in, but it will be natural, just the pattern lies on a large interval. Simply put, when the machine is supposed to pour out big, the random button is turned on, but when this randomness rolls up, here everything really depends on the luck of the person. This is done so that players do not win small prizes, but win big ones at once, let's say x100-x1000 will be much nicer than x5, for example. Therefore, this pool of x1000 prizes is formed, and it is broken only when it accumulates in the machine. This means that initially any slot is in accumulation mode. And when it is in this state, it naturally takes more than it gives. And when it is charged with money, be it casino marketing money or players' money, the machine goes into active function, and in order not to pour out pennies, after a certain accumulated amount, the function of returning this amount is turned on and additional opportunities for the player open up in the slots. And after turning on the big win return function, the player can win it, but this tasty treat drops out 100% randomly and it is not known exactly when and to whom it will drop out!
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Re: Is there a relationship between deposit and result?

1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago
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There is certainly a dependency. The more money we put into the game, the less the deposit INCREASE will suit us. With $50, you will want to play $500, and that is x10. With $250, it is enough to do x2. Feel the difference :-)
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